Adding a front camera to a 2019?

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Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by waldo » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:00 am

The truck has the backup and cargo camera, so how difficult is it to add a front cam?

I was going to order one that way, but was unable due to bad timing.
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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by pdavey » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:06 pm

waldo wrote:The truck has the backup and cargo camera, so how difficult is it to add a front cam?

I was going to order one that way, but was unable due to bad timing.

It may be something you want to check with the dealer on (normally not a proponent) however from what I have heard if you have the other two cameras it isn’t as easy as plug and play. It needs to be programmed in.

I bet the wiring is already there.


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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by waldo » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:27 am

pdavey wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:06 pm

It may be something you want to check with the dealer on (normally not a proponent) however from what I have heard if you have the other two cameras it isn’t as easy as plug and play. It needs to be programmed in.

I bet the wiring is already there.


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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by pdavey » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:45 am

I have found the dealerships know nothing about the features of the 2019 HDs. I have the front camera on mine. Let me see what I can find in terms of a part number.

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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by SeppW » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:18 pm

A handful of businesses make the kits that interface with the OEM radio. Most are pricey, otherwise you'll have to power it and run it to its own monitor. I thought I read somewhere the '19s had a front camera or was an option (and you did say that). Infotainment.com and Camerasource.com come to mind. I've read some interfaces/functionality are dependent on existing cameras and whether you have the steering wheel volume controls. The latter above has a kit that adds the front and 2 side cameras, but it's pushing close to a grand. Could be compatibility issues with 2019s too.

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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:04 pm

Standard on the 19 PW. Maybe did not get the right package or unconnect?
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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by waldo » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:06 pm

SeppW wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:18 pm
A handful of businesses make the kits that interface with the OEM radio. Most are pricey, otherwise you'll have to power it and run it to its own monitor. I thought I read somewhere the '19s had a front camera or was an option (and you did say that). Infotainment.com and Camerasource.com come to mind. I've read some interfaces/functionality are dependent on existing cameras and whether you have the steering wheel volume controls. The latter above has a kit that adds the front and 2 side cameras, but it's pushing close to a grand. Could be compatibility issues with 2019s too.
"*Not compatible if truck has a factory tailgate camera and factory cargo camera"

That's what mine has. :thppt:
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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by pdavey » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:42 pm

Do you have a tradesman?

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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by waldo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:05 pm

FordyceCreekTrail wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:04 pm
Standard on the 19 PW. Maybe did not get the right package or unconnect?
It's probably standard in the top trim, otherwise it comes with some group or stand alone add on. It's got the 8.4 uconnect and a bed camera.

I bought it off a lot because they had closed 19 orders and 20 wasn't open yet.
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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by waldo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:11 pm

pdavey wrote:
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Do you have a tradesman?

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No, I guess it would be the classic/standard PW trim or some such. It's got some add on package the dealer ordered but nowhere near the top trim.
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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by pdavey » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:44 pm

If it is the classic it is the tradesman most likely and is actually a 2018 version of the truck.

Let me ask this to seal the answer. Do your front headlights look like these?
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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by pdavey » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:45 pm

If they aren't LEDs then it is the tradesman edition for 2019 and wouldn't have the front camera standard. Likely you will need to buy one of the 2018 aftermarket systems to enable.

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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by waldo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:14 pm

It's not a Tradesman or an 18. I've got the sticker in front of me. And it has LED lights.


Seems the 360 cam view is buried in the towing technology group (which this doesn't have).


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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by pdavey » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:02 pm

Cool. Nice color. I have a 3G in Black too.

Ok you should be able to order the front camera and have the dealership enable it then but you made need the 360 module.

Biggest issue is that most every part for the 2019 HDs if they weren't a previous 2018 part are impossible to find because they are all being used in production.

Been waiting on a new windshield for 2 months now and delivery keeps getting pushed back.

Talked to one of the aftermarket companies that works through enabling dealer features and they indicated that the front camera is tricky.

My guess is it is similar to the issues with pulling codes from the 3G smart bar.

Will try to pull the part number for the camera.

Since they don't have the wiring schematics available yet I can't really say what else is involved with it.

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Re: Adding a front camera to a 2019?

Post by waldo » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:22 am

pdavey wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:02 pm
Cool. Nice color. I have a 3G in Black too.

Ok you should be able to order the front camera and have the dealership enable it then but you made need the 360 module.

Biggest issue is that most every part for the 2019 HDs if they weren't a previous 2018 part are impossible to find because they are all being used in production.

Been waiting on a new windshield for 2 months now and delivery keeps getting pushed back.

Talked to one of the aftermarket companies that works through enabling dealer features and they indicated that the front camera is tricky.

My guess is it is similar to the issues with pulling codes from the 3G smart bar.

Will try to pull the part number for the camera.

Since they don't have the wiring schematics available yet I can't really say what else is involved with it.

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This is why I normally order my trucks and just get what I want. Looks like a real pain in the ass to add it.

At first glance, the only wiring I see there is for the active shutters. (Although I didn't remove any of the front trim for a closer look.)
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