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Re: Sliders

Post by KevinABQ » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:58 pm

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If you want WK sliders hold tight, they're going to be one of our title sponsors for PWIM and we're working out a discount. Should finalize this week. :cheers:
I don't suppose any suspension sponsors might do that too?
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Re: Sliders

Post by chrisjameswagner » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:43 pm

They're called "sliders".

Aluminess work as designed.
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Re: Sliders

Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:21 am

Despite being called "Sliders" I've always felt a hit is a better test. Any metal will handle being rubbed over a rock.

But can it hold up to this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BiptpxUgRSc/
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Re: Sliders

Post by Punishher7 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:19 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:If you want WK sliders hold tight, they're going to be one of our title sponsors for PWIM and we're working out a discount. Should finalize this week. :cheers:
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Re: Sliders

Post by chrisjameswagner » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:26 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:21 am
Despite being called "Sliders" I've always felt a hit is a better test. Any metal will handle being rubbed over a rock.

But can it hold up to this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BiptpxUgRSc/
I think so. Know I've done that a few times. Tell you they hold up 10,000 times better than any of the stock skid plates and cross members...
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Re: Sliders

Post by HammerTime » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:46 am

RustyPW wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:50 pm
Low_Sky wrote:
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RustyPW wrote:The Aluminess is aluminum, so it's soft metal. You'll put so nice grooves in them if you slide across enough rocks. I have their bumper. And I got some nice marks on the bottom of it.
Aluminess sliders are steel. The problem with them is that they mount to the body just like step bars. Maybe OK for incidental bump protection, but not OK for hard hits and intentional use.


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When did they change them. They was aluminum.
I've had a set of the Aluminess sliders on all 3 of my Power Wagons. 2010, 2013, 2017. They were all steel. In fact, the white Power Wagon on their website is my 2010. Not the overland rig, the one with just the sliders. If you look close, you will see why I bought them... I damaged the rocker panels on the truck before I decided I needed sliders...:(
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Re: Sliders

Post by HammerTime » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:47 am

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I went with wk sliders. Drilling all those holes in the body to mount the aluminess ones scared the hell out of me. The rockers would be swiss cheese in no time around here with all the road salt in the winter.

The aluminess offer a lot more ground clearance per se, but really the wk ones dont hang anywhere near as low as the frame does, sooooooo....
There is no drilling required. They mount in holes already there for factory steps.
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Post by HammerTime » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:52 am

chrisjameswagner wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:43 pm
They're called "sliders".

Aluminess work as designed.

Cottonwood Ledge.jpg
Yes, I went 4x4ing at Truck Haven a few weeks ago with my Aluminess sliders on the Power Wagon. They saved both sides rocker panels. Best $750 I've spent on the truck so far! LOL! They worked as designed on my 2010 and 2013 also.
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Re: Sliders

Post by HammerTime » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:53 am

chrisjameswagner wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:26 pm
BoldAdventure wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:21 am
Despite being called "Sliders" I've always felt a hit is a better test. Any metal will handle being rubbed over a rock.

But can it hold up to this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BiptpxUgRSc/
I think so. Know I've done that a few times. Tell you they hold up 10,000 times better than any of the stock skid plates and cross members...
I did bend the Aluminess sliders on my 2013 Power Wagon from a big hit. No damage to the truck however. They work.
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Re: Sliders

Post by olyelr » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:21 am

HammerTime wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:47 am
olyelr wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:06 pm
I went with wk sliders. Drilling all those holes in the body to mount the aluminess ones scared the hell out of me. The rockers would be swiss cheese in no time around here with all the road salt in the winter.

The aluminess offer a lot more ground clearance per se, but really the wk ones dont hang anywhere near as low as the frame does, sooooooo....
There is no drilling required. They mount in holes already there for factory steps.

Hmm, I must be thinking of another brand. They basically mounted to the body with a bunch of rivets.
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Re: Sliders

Post by Low_Sky » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:39 am

olyelr wrote:
HammerTime wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:47 am
olyelr wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:06 pm
I went with wk sliders. Drilling all those holes in the body to mount the aluminess ones scared the hell out of me. The rockers would be swiss cheese in no time around here with all the road salt in the winter.

The aluminess offer a lot more ground clearance per se, but really the wk ones dont hang anywhere near as low as the frame does, sooooooo....
There is no drilling required. They mount in holes already there for factory steps.

Hmm, I must be thinking of another brand. They basically mounted to the body with a bunch of rivets.
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Re: Sliders

Post by OffroadTreks » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:29 pm

Beat me to it. The Randy Ellis design is the one I don't trust. It just looks like you could push it into the cab. But then again, maybe it's fine and I'm wrong. I'd be willing to admit that.

But you know what, you can easily remove WK sliders and move them to another truck, or sell them. Those Randy Ellis rock guards are more permanent.
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Post by olyelr » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:26 pm

Yea, the Randy Ellis ones must be what I was originally thinking of. The strength part isnt just the only issue in my mind with those... the rockers would be swiss cheese after a few winters no doubt. All the salt getting into all of those drilled rivet holes would be bery bad.
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Post by jakestopp244 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:45 pm

any updates on the wk sponsoring the site been waiting on sliders. im haveing a hard time dropping 1300 bucks when i can get a set made up and design some frame brackets and legs for quite a bit cheaper, so with that said has anyone here made a custom set i can see pictures of? if not hopefully they can hook us up and ill be able to bite the bullet on a set.
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Post by AlaskaTRX » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:15 am

jakestopp244 wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:45 pm
any updates on the wk sponsoring the site been waiting on sliders. im haveing a hard time dropping 1300 bucks when i can get a set made up and design some frame brackets and legs for quite a bit cheaper, so with that said has anyone here made a custom set i can see pictures of? if not hopefully they can hook us up and ill be able to bite the bullet on a set.
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Re: Sliders

Post by ramv » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:38 am

The WK are top notch. My 2nd gen ones were very nice and much cheaper. But welded to the outer frame. The WK are no comparison. They are so precise and fit awesome. Again. The Aluminess might be great, haven’t tried them. But for a frame mounted, no drilling required I doubt you can get anywhere close to the WK of you value your time.
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Re: Sliders

Post by RamGentry » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:09 am

I bought the aluminess sliders from a member on this forum. They mount up to existing hole so I didnt have to drill into anything and have been solid for me. No complaints. My main motivation for these sliders was honestly money, I got a pretty good deal when compared to buying new. Now that being said, WK would still be my #1 choice. If your planning on needing to pivot on the sliders often I'd say go frame mounted and thicker tubing. For me they are a nice step and protection when I'm on the (~ 10 trips/year)
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Post by olyelr » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:00 pm

IMO, if you have to pay someone to fab up a set of sliders, and you want them to mimic the look and strength of wk sliders, your gonna be into the same price range as a set of wk sliders. Might save on the shipping part, thats about it.
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Re: Sliders

Post by EasyDoesIt » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:48 pm

olyelr wrote:
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IMO, if you have to pay someone to fab up a set of sliders, and you want them to mimic the look and strength of wk sliders, your gonna be into the same price range as a set of wk sliders. Might save on the shipping part, thats about it.
Agreed. Total material cost might be less than a few hundred but fab labor adds up quick. You might save $2-300 but the risk of them not being right or strong enough for these pigs probably isn't worth it.

This is coming from a guy who with the help of a couple friends fab'd up my own knock off WK sliders. It took 2 guys 24 hours to build and paint, granted there were a few beer breaks.

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Post by jakestopp244 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:13 pm

well see thats my dilema my uncle owns a offroad fabrication shop and sells a shit ton of sliders so id be able to get a set of sliders themselfs from him and it would be cheap, all i would do is fabricate my own frame plates and legs but thats where im wondering if my time to make the sliders fit right is gunna pan out.
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Re: Sliders

Post by olyelr » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:50 pm

jakestopp244 wrote:
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well see thats my dilema my uncle owns a offroad fabrication shop and sells a shit ton of sliders so id be able to get a set of sliders themselfs from him and it would be cheap, all i would do is fabricate my own frame plates and legs but thats where im wondering if my time to make the sliders fit right is gunna pan out.
Depends on how good you are :lol:

The wk sliders fit flawlessly. But, there are several areas where there is legit like 1/4” or less of room to where they would not even fit. When you get under there and really look... SHIT IS TIGHT!
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Post by Low_Sky » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:34 pm

olyelr wrote:
jakestopp244 wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:13 pm
well see thats my dilema my uncle owns a offroad fabrication shop and sells a shit ton of sliders so id be able to get a set of sliders themselfs from him and it would be cheap, all i would do is fabricate my own frame plates and legs but thats where im wondering if my time to make the sliders fit right is gunna pan out.
Depends on how good you are :lol:

The wk sliders fit flawlessly. But, there are several areas where there is legit like 1/4” or less of room to where they would not even fit. When you get under there and really look... SHIT IS TIGHT!
This. Everyone “knows a guy” that could weld a set. And they’ll spend a whole weekend or more measuring, and calculating, and figuring to get everything to fit. Only doing three mounting legs is a common shortcut I see on customs, just skipping the forward end of the slider altogether (the tightest/trickiest to fit, where most of the truck’s weight is).

You buy from White Knuckle and they’re done. Unwrap them, bolt them on and go wheeling.

It’s a question of how good you are, what fab tools you have access to, and what your time is worth. There is no one right answer for all, but for most it’s to just buy White Knuckles.


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Re: Sliders

Post by jakestopp244 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:30 pm

to be honest i havent looked at where i would mount all of the legs as much as ive been under the truck haha but i got more time than extra money to blow, defintly gotta look into it more ive put sliders on my toyotas and it was like a night after work with a buddy to mount up and weld so leaning toward taking the challenge still
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Re: Sliders

Post by ramv » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:20 pm

I have done some pre-fab welded ones on my second gen. The fourth gen is so much more complicated, not to mention, I prefer not welding to the frame. Plus, a lot of wires and other things going on compared to the second gen. The WK are works of art. How they made them to bolt on and support this kind of weight (that's the other thing to consider.). My 2nd gen was no where near this heavy and until I did the exocage, they would flex and put dents in the body at the legs. 2" 3/8" wall DOM. Big dents in the bed.

The WK don't move at all, including when I smoked a steel post filled with the cement at the airport. Just scratched the powder coat.
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Re: Sliders

Post by jakestopp244 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:18 pm

alright i think im leaning toward wk now haha defintly gotta sleep on this one i just enjoy building my own stuff thats why i was pushing for mounting my own sliders but on a expensive new rig i like the idea of using something thats been trail tested. and crazy how helpfull everyone here is most online offroad forums are pretty ruthless
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