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Post by Lazarus » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:17 pm

Looking at finally getting some sliders. Deciding between white knuckle and aluminess. What are thoughts on both from those who own them?

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Post by PWJouster » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:52 pm

white knuckle seems like the go to around here. they will be my choice.
if im not mistaken, the aluminess are not frame mounted?

and depending on your use, frame mounted sliders may be the most sturdy
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Post by olyelr » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:06 pm

I went with wk sliders. Drilling all those holes in the body to mount the aluminess ones scared the hell out of me. The rockers would be swiss cheese in no time around here with all the road salt in the winter.

The aluminess offer a lot more ground clearance per se, but really the wk ones dont hang anywhere near as low as the frame does, sooooooo....
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Post by RustyPW » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:00 pm

The Aluminess is aluminum, so it's soft metal. You'll put so nice grooves in them if you slide across enough rocks. I have their bumper. And I got some nice marks on the bottom of it.
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Post by Low_Sky » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:34 pm

RustyPW wrote:The Aluminess is aluminum, so it's soft metal. You'll put so nice grooves in them if you slide across enough rocks. I have their bumper. And I got some nice marks on the bottom of it.
Aluminess sliders are steel. The problem with them is that they mount to the body just like step bars. Maybe OK for incidental bump protection, but not OK for hard hits and intentional use.


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Post by RustyPW » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:50 pm

Low_Sky wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:34 pm
RustyPW wrote:The Aluminess is aluminum, so it's soft metal. You'll put so nice grooves in them if you slide across enough rocks. I have their bumper. And I got some nice marks on the bottom of it.
Aluminess sliders are steel. The problem with them is that they mount to the body just like step bars. Maybe OK for incidental bump protection, but not OK for hard hits and intentional use.


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Post by Lazarus » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:00 pm

I knew the aluminess were made out of steel, but I did not know they mounted to the body. That doesn't exactly seem like the best place to anchor rock sliders haha. The white knuckle ones sure look awesome.

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Post by DamageWagon » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:00 pm

Believe the aluminess sliders have always been steel. Everything else they make is aluminum I believe. Their Ram sliders are an exception.

There’s pictures you can google of a truck identical to mine that got t-boned in an intersection by a hatchback. The front of the car was annihilated; the Aluminess slider had a bent in it and there was a dent in the door. I think there are pros and cons to either. For occasional hits aluminess is just fine.
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Post by DamageWagon » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:05 pm

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This was the crash. Note that is an AFTER pic, see the tiny bend in the sliders and ding under the door?

I haven’t worked with aluminess sliders. Just don’t discount them because they’re body mounted. If you beat on your truck get frame mounted sliders. Otherwise for occasional use the body mounted units work.

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Post by Low_Sky » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:54 pm

DamageWagon wrote:ImageImageImage

This was the crash. Note that is an AFTER pic, see the tiny bend in the sliders and ding under the door?

I haven’t worked with aluminess sliders. Just don’t discount them because they’re body mounted. If you beat on your truck get frame mounted sliders. Otherwise for occasional use the body mounted units work.
That truck is the same one on their website. Possibly the only set they’ve ever sold? Haha


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Post by KevinABQ » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:59 pm

Low_Sky wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:34 pm
Aluminess sliders are steel. The problem with them is that they mount to the body just like step bars. Maybe OK for incidental bump protection, but not OK for hard hits and intentional use.
The body mount can be strong enough. There is the hardcore Jeep trick where you cut away the rocker panels and weld in DOM tubing.

But the WK have been fine in my limited experience of being dragged over rock by a winch.
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Post by Low_Sky » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:23 pm

KevinABQ wrote:
Low_Sky wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:34 pm
Aluminess sliders are steel. The problem with them is that they mount to the body just like step bars. Maybe OK for incidental bump protection, but not OK for hard hits and intentional use.
The body mount can be strong enough. There is the hardcore Jeep trick where you cut away the rocker panels and weld in DOM tubing.

But the WK have been fine in my limited experience of being dragged over rock by a winch.
A length of DOM tube welded along the full length of a ~4000 lbs Jeep rocker is not an “apples to apples” comparison with a bolt-on slider secured to sheet metal on an 8000 lbs truck.


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Post by Bill2014 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:37 pm

To the OP - go with the .188 DOM White Knuckle sliders, they are the strongest frame mounted option! Fast and easy install without any drilling anywhere!
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Post by ramv » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:34 pm

WK is a really nice product. I am very pleased with mine and have definitely used them hard.
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Post by Lazarus » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:20 pm

I guess I'd be fine with either, but will go with WK. the biggest obstacle now is convincing the wife that I need a $1000 mod on my truck. Some mods are easy to hide, but not this one haha.

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Post by olyelr » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:26 pm

Lazarus wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:20 pm
I guess I'd be fine with either, but will go with WK. the biggest obstacle now is convincing the wife that I need a $1000 mod on my truck. Some mods are easy to hide, but not this one haha.
Where you gonna find a set for $1000?! LOL
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Post by Lazarus » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:30 pm

olyelr wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:26 pm
Lazarus wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:20 pm
I guess I'd be fine with either, but will go with WK. the biggest obstacle now is convincing the wife that I need a $1000 mod on my truck. Some mods are easy to hide, but not this one haha.
Where you gonna find a set for $1000?! LOL
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Post by Low_Sky » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:37 pm

Lazarus wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:20 pm
I guess I'd be fine with either, but will go with WK. the biggest obstacle now is convincing the wife that I need a $1000 mod on my truck. Some mods are easy to hide, but not this one haha.
Show her how much damage to the rocker panels and doors costs to repair. They pay for themselves the first time they take a good bump.
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Post by Lazarus » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:43 pm

Haha good point. I will also show her the pictures damagewagon posted of that wreck. Safety first!

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Post by OffroadTreks » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:49 pm

Low_Sky wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:23 pm
KevinABQ wrote:
Low_Sky wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:34 pm
Aluminess sliders are steel. The problem with them is that they mount to the body just like step bars. Maybe OK for incidental bump protection, but not OK for hard hits and intentional use.
The body mount can be strong enough. There is the hardcore Jeep trick where you cut away the rocker panels and weld in DOM tubing.

But the WK have been fine in my limited experience of being dragged over rock by a winch.
A length of DOM tube welded along the full length of a ~4000 lbs Jeep rocker is not an “apples to apples” comparison with a bolt-on slider secured to sheet metal on an 8000 lbs truck.
This, this "good enough for Jeeps" thing comes up all the time when people are talking about the Randy Elis sliders. There is also another HUGE difference, and that's the gap between the frame and the body. Look under a Jeep and notice how much closer it is to the pinch seam. A lot of Jeep sliders, while mounting there, also go back to the frame.

It's def not apples and oranges.
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Post by EasyDoesIt » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:59 pm

This may come off like I'm some cranky old guy but I promise its with good intentions.

Can we sticky this or another thread that shows all the options for PW Rock Sliders? Seems like this comes up every couple months and maybe its because we don't have a sticky that shows all the options and pros/cons of each.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the site traffic and a firm believer of theirs no such thing as a stupid question but it would be nice to be able to post a simple link when someone asks this question. At least if they have specific questions, they can always start a new thread.
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Post by Lazarus » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:01 am

Anyone know what sliders these are? In the video he says they are a knockoff of WK but I can't find anything on them.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZtVvBpI2o0

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Post by Low_Sky » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:42 pm

Lazarus wrote:Anyone know what sliders these are? In the video he says they are a knockoff of WK but I can't find anything on them.
Looks like the guy who welded mine is still in business and relocated from Farmington. I don’t have his contact info any more, unfortunately.


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Post by OffroadTreks » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:55 pm

Lazarus wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:01 am
Anyone know what sliders these are? In the video he says they are a knockoff of WK but I can't find anything on them.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZtVvBpI2o0
Oh yeah, David bought his used on CL somewhere near Aurora, CO.

If you want WK sliders hold tight, they're going to be one of our title sponsors for PWIM and we're working out a discount. Should finalize this week. :cheers:
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Post by Low_Sky » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:00 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Lazarus wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:01 am
Anyone know what sliders these are? In the video he says they are a knockoff of WK but I can't find anything on them.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZtVvBpI2o0
Oh yeah, David bought his used on CL somewhere near Aurora, CO.

If you want WK sliders hold tight, they're going to be one of our title sponsors for PWIM and we're working out a discount. Should finalize this week. :cheers:
When I bought mine there were two sets in circulation. If those were a CL pickup, they may be my sliders’ long lost twins.

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