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Re: 2020 Power Wagon - Spied

Post by RustyPW » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:22 pm

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So they're calling it a 2019 in the video, but it's not even available yet. So is it a late 19 or an early 20?
They must have a bunch of leftovers, and are trying to move them.
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Re: 2020 Power Wagon - Spied

Post by OffroadTreks » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:08 am

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:10 pm
So they're calling it a 2019 in the video, but it's not even available yet. So is it a late 19 or an early 20?
It's a 2020, they're wrong in their video for some reason. If it was a 19 they'd be for sale already.
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Post by Bill2014 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:01 pm

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:10 pm
So they're calling it a 2019 in the video, but it's not even available yet. So is it a late 19 or an early 20?
This happens with FCA routinely...

When the new 2014 Power Wagon's were announced, you could finally order them in April 2014 for July delivery. And it was a 2014 model... :evil:
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Re: 2020 Power Wagon - Spied

Post by StefanB » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:16 pm

The guys at TFL have a Video out and the Engine seems to sound different, maybe they changed something to the intake and/or exhaust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 0GPbN3EZQQ

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Post by olyelr » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:54 am

At what point did you even hear the exhaust in that video?
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Post by Bill2014 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:01 am

Didn't hear an engine or exhaust difference...
Aside from the 8-speed, the other differences are minuscule and can be counted on one hand :wink:
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Post by Bill2014 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:27 am

Ram is falling behind!!!
Ford Super Duty's can have a 7.3-liter V8 gasser in 2020!
FCA should pull the trigger on the Elephant Engine to keep up!!! :popcorn:
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Post by TankerZak » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:38 am

Bill2014 wrote:Ram is falling behind!!!
Ford Super Duty's can have a 7.3-liter V8 gasser in 2020!
FCA should pull the trigger on the Elephant Engine to keep up!!! :popcorn:
I'm sure we are getting the 426 in 2022. It'll probably be the 6.4L upgrade for a bigger size.

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Re: 2020 Power Wagon - Spied

Post by Powagone » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:13 pm

Glad I still own my 05. I don't like anything about these newer gen PW's. They have lost their "off road beast" appeal IMO
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Re: 2020 Power Wagon - Spied

Post by Bill2014 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:37 pm

Powagone wrote:
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Glad I still own my 05. I don't like anything about these newer gen PW's. They have lost their "off road beast" appeal IMO
The extra horsepower and TORQUE doesn’t appeal to you? :poke:
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Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:52 am

Bill2014 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:37 pm
Powagone wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:13 pm
Glad I still own my 05. I don't like anything about these newer gen PW's. They have lost their "off road beast" appeal IMO
The extra horsepower and TORQUE doesn’t appeal to you? :poke:
Or the improved reliability? Or lack of Drug Lord trim and dragon vomit graphics?(as FCA puts it) Or 360 cameras? Or better interior? Or a better winch set up more suited to regular use? Or better crawl ratio? or.................
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Post by OffroadTreks » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:47 pm

8-speed and crawl have me half way there. I just want that extra room in the rear cab and the flat floor the 1500 got and I'm upgrading.
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Re: 2020 Power Wagon - Spied

Post by BULLITT1204 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:39 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:47 pm
8-speed and crawl have me half way there. I just want that extra room in the rear cab and the flat floor the 1500 got and I'm upgrading.
That crawl ratio is nice for sure in that size of a vehicle when i had my Rubicon that had the 4.1 ratio tcase i was like this is beautiful

Only thing i noticed with my 18 is 4low kinda pushes me through my brakes at a stop i really gotta be on the brakes to hold the truck.. so im wondering on this 2020(2019) if thats going to be worse with the higher crawl ratio and shorter first gear
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Post by TankerZak » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:20 pm

BULLITT1204 wrote:
BoldAdventure wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:47 pm
8-speed and crawl have me half way there. I just want that extra room in the rear cab and the flat floor the 1500 got and I'm upgrading.
That crawl ratio is nice for sure in that size of a vehicle when i had my Rubicon that had the 4.1 ratio tcase i was like this is beautiful

Only thing i noticed with my 18 is 4low kinda pushes me through my brakes at a stop i really gotta be on the brakes to hold the truck.. so im wondering on this 2020(2019) if thats going to be worse with the higher crawl ratio and shorter first gear
PowerStop Z36 pad swap will really help with that. Just a FYI.

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Post by OffroadTreks » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:44 pm

TankerZak wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:20 pm
BULLITT1204 wrote:
BoldAdventure wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:47 pm
8-speed and crawl have me half way there. I just want that extra room in the rear cab and the flat floor the 1500 got and I'm upgrading.
That crawl ratio is nice for sure in that size of a vehicle when i had my Rubicon that had the 4.1 ratio tcase i was like this is beautiful

Only thing i noticed with my 18 is 4low kinda pushes me through my brakes at a stop i really gotta be on the brakes to hold the truck.. so im wondering on this 2020(2019) if thats going to be worse with the higher crawl ratio and shorter first gear
PowerStop Z36 pad swap will really help with that. Just a FYI.

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Post by Bill2014 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:44 pm

TankerZak wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:20 pm
BULLITT1204 wrote:
BoldAdventure wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:47 pm
8-speed and crawl have me half way there. I just want that extra room in the rear cab and the flat floor the 1500 got and I'm upgrading.
That crawl ratio is nice for sure in that size of a vehicle when i had my Rubicon that had the 4.1 ratio tcase i was like this is beautiful

Only thing i noticed with my 18 is 4low kinda pushes me through my brakes at a stop i really gotta be on the brakes to hold the truck.. so im wondering on this 2020(2019) if thats going to be worse with the higher crawl ratio and shorter first gear
PowerStop Z36 pad swap will really help with that. Just a FYI.

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Or EBC Yellow pads - will give maybe +50% improvement in braking over stock... :idea:
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Post by RustyPW » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:50 pm

EBC YellowStuff pads. :rockon:
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Post by Colibri » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:02 pm

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Post by BULLITT1204 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:13 pm

Bill2014 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:44 pm
TankerZak wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:20 pm
BULLITT1204 wrote:
That crawl ratio is nice for sure in that size of a vehicle when i had my Rubicon that had the 4.1 ratio tcase i was like this is beautiful

Only thing i noticed with my 18 is 4low kinda pushes me through my brakes at a stop i really gotta be on the brakes to hold the truck.. so im wondering on this 2020(2019) if thats going to be worse with the higher crawl ratio and shorter first gear
PowerStop Z36 pad swap will really help with that. Just a FYI.

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Or EBC Yellow pads - will give maybe +50% improvement in braking over stock... :idea:

Sweet ill add that to the list of stuff to buy
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Re: 2020 Power Wagon - Spied

Post by Powagone » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:47 pm

FordyceCreekTrail wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:52 am
Bill2014 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:37 pm
Powagone wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:13 pm
Glad I still own my 05. I don't like anything about these newer gen PW's. They have lost their "off road beast" appeal IMO
The extra horsepower and TORQUE doesn’t appeal to you? :poke:
Or the improved reliability? Or lack of Drug Lord trim and dragon vomit graphics?(as FCA puts it) Or 360 cameras? Or better interior? Or a better winch set up more suited to regular use? Or better crawl ratio? or.................
I can appreciate all that. I just wish the new ones had a shorter wheelbase and better tight switchback mountain off road ability. May be a Jeep in my future.
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Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:14 pm

I have not wheeled mine enough, but have blasted around the San Juans a bit. I can do most tight switch backs with out backing up. Significantly better then my Titan did. I was actually pleasantly surprised. A Rubicon or a Gladiator would definitely be easier on tight mountain trails. But I would not hesitate to do Black Bear for example in the PW. Was going to last summer, but the Dura Trash tires stopped me after 12 flat tires.
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Post by cb1987 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:54 pm

to me the ram badge on the lower portion of the door looks very out of place. like it was mistakenly put there. otherwise i dont mind the looks of the new 2500 in the sport packages (no chrome). but i like the 1500 looks better and hope the 2500 will end up similar to the 1500

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Post by LagunaH1 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:01 pm

The 8 speed transmission and crawl ratio *IS* interesting to me. Tempting......
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Post by Bigdodge » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:54 am

Well my friend has his Jeep being repaired and his insurance gave him this for a loaner. He let me drive it back from lunch. Pretty basic as for options but still pretty nice. Compared to my truck with a hemifever tune it really has a lot of throttle lag. Seems like u have to press the pedal down half way to get moving

Once going the 8 speed definitely knows better where to be and is more responsive but I was surprised the shifts don't really seem quicker like I had hoped for. Brakes seem to be improved although not sure if anything has changed.

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Post by Low_Sky » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:20 pm

Bigdodge wrote:Well my friend has his Jeep being repaired and his insurance gave him this for a loaner. He let me drive it back from lunch. Pretty basic as for options but still pretty nice. Compared to my truck with a hemifever tune it really has a lot of throttle lag. Seems like u have to press the pedal down half way to get moving

Once going the 8 speed definitely knows better where to be and is more responsive but I was surprised the shifts don't really seem quicker like I had hoped for. Brakes seem to be improved although not sure if anything has changed.

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How many miles on the loaner? It may be new enough that the trans is still in break in / learn-your-driving-style mode and not yet shifting normally.


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