Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by 06wagon » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:48 am

It's only the stock size duratracs that don't hold up. I've ran 315's on another truck and had great luck. And I know some guys that have replaced the stock ones for a different size, and it's night and day.
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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by POk3s » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:50 pm

06 wagon that may be the case but I can't hahahaha. I just can't.

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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by MOPARManiac » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:55 pm

What load range are the stock Duratracs? A Power Wagon should only have Load Range D or E tires. They're not using Load Range C Duratracs are they? If so that is the issue.


I'm in Wyoming as well. I've had Hankook MT's and AT's. The AT's sucked, the MT's were okay. I now have the Cooper ST Maxx and they are awesome. Do great on road (a little hum, but not bad). Are superior off road and do great on wet roads, in snow, and ice. My mileage did drop when I went from the Load Range D MT's to the load range E tires.
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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by olyelr » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:47 pm

They are load range D.
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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by POk3s » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:36 am

Yes they're load range D.

I had my mind all but made up to buy some coopers. Either maxx or pros. Figured I'd make a post on an online garage to see if anybody had some laying around. A guy did! Some firestone destination mts he's willing to sell me for $450. So that's the route I took. These tires weren't really on my radar but...bird in the hand.

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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by TwinStick » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:56 pm

I have said this before, I think the manufacturers tires that are on many new vehicles are either made to a different standard or they are blems that they buy in LARGE quantities to get huge discounts.

Vehicles that we bought new that had tire problems of one sort or another & they only last half as long.
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All the people i worked with over the years had stories of stock tires wearing out way too fast or belts shifting or constant flats from belts shifting or bubbles in the sidewalls, etc. Even on the internet tire shops reviews, there are reviews that say stock tires were junk, replaced with aftermarket tires of same brand & model & no more issues.

Things that make you go hmmmm. :roll:
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Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by waldo » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:40 pm

TwinStick wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:56 pm
I have said this before, I think the manufacturers tires that are on many new vehicles are either made to a different standard or they are blems that they buy in LARGE quantities to get huge discounts.

Vehicles that we bought new that had tire problems of one sort or another & they only last half as long.
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All the people i worked with over the years had stories of stock tires wearing out way too fast or belts shifting or constant flats from belts shifting or bubbles in the sidewalls, etc. Even on the internet tire shops reviews, there are reviews that say stock tires were junk, replaced with aftermarket tires of same brand & model & no more issues.

Things that make you go hmmmm. :roll:
I never lost a sidewall on any of the OEM tires on any of my trucks. Not until duratrash. The sidewalls are THIN. I've had flats, sure, but those were from running over nails and such.

Now you wouldn't think Goodyear would deliberately kill replacement sales by selling the OEM crap tires, would you?
I wouldn't take another set of them if they were free.
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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by Reloaderguy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:46 pm

TwinStick wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:56 pm
I have said this before, I think the manufacturers tires that are on many new vehicles are either made to a different standard or they are blems that they buy in LARGE quantities to get huge discounts.

Vehicles that we bought new that had tire problems of one sort or another & they only last half as long.
Chrysler Labaron
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2 Toyotas
Dodge Dakota
Chevy Caprice
Dodge Ram 2500
Dodge Power Wagon

All the people i worked with over the years had stories of stock tires wearing out way too fast or belts shifting or constant flats from belts shifting or bubbles in the sidewalls, etc. Even on the internet tire shops reviews, there are reviews that say stock tires were junk, replaced with aftermarket tires of same brand & model & no more issues.

Things that make you go hmmmm. :roll:
My wife's car came with a set of high end Toyo's. They are anything but cheap. I'm not surprised Subaru came with shitty tires, their primary demographic are liberals.
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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by Punishher7 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:25 pm

[/quote]I wouldn't take another set of them if they were free.[/quote]

I completely agree.


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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by NickTF » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:00 am

Reloaderguy wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:46 pm

My wife's car came with a set of high end Toyo's. They are anything but cheap. I'm not surprised Subaru came with shitty tires, their primary demographic are liberals.
So what you're saying is the subaru tire assaulted the driver and the tire should be presumed guilty until the driver's feelings aren't hurt?

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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by Bill2014 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:38 am

Reloaderguy wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:46 pm
TwinStick wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:56 pm
I have said this before, I think the manufacturers tires that are on many new vehicles are either made to a different standard or they are blems that they buy in LARGE quantities to get huge discounts.

Vehicles that we bought new that had tire problems of one sort or another & they only last half as long.
Chrysler Labaron
2 Subarus
2 Toyotas
Dodge Dakota
Chevy Caprice
Dodge Ram 2500
Dodge Power Wagon

All the people i worked with over the years had stories of stock tires wearing out way too fast or belts shifting or constant flats from belts shifting or bubbles in the sidewalls, etc. Even on the internet tire shops reviews, there are reviews that say stock tires were junk, replaced with aftermarket tires of same brand & model & no more issues.

Things that make you go hmmmm. :roll:
My wife's car came with a set of high end Toyo's. They are anything but cheap. I'm not surprised Subaru came with shitty tires, their primary demographic are liberals.
You're thinking of the PRIUS :wink: not the smooth - reliable - long lasting 4wd Subaru
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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by dimrod » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:19 am

My Duratracs didn't last 8,000 miles. Constant flat tires and ruined one completely. Switched to same size BFGoodrich KO2s and have had 8,000 trouble free miles on the same gravel roads here in Western Alaska. Duratracs are junk on those types of surfaces. The gravel easily punches through the tread between the lugs.

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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by RustyPW » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:34 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:46 pm
TwinStick wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:56 pm
I have said this before, I think the manufacturers tires that are on many new vehicles are either made to a different standard or they are blems that they buy in LARGE quantities to get huge discounts.

Vehicles that we bought new that had tire problems of one sort or another & they only last half as long.
Chrysler Labaron
2 Subarus
2 Toyotas
Dodge Dakota
Chevy Caprice
Dodge Ram 2500
Dodge Power Wagon

All the people i worked with over the years had stories of stock tires wearing out way too fast or belts shifting or constant flats from belts shifting or bubbles in the sidewalls, etc. Even on the internet tire shops reviews, there are reviews that say stock tires were junk, replaced with aftermarket tires of same brand & model & no more issues.

Things that make you go hmmmm. :roll:
My wife's car came with a set of high end Toyo's. They are anything but cheap. I'm not surprised Subaru came with shitty tires, their primary demographic are liberals.
:rofl: So true! Every Subi owner I know is one. :o
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Re: Fed up!!! (More dura trash)

Post by TwinStick » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:45 pm

Including my kids...............after they went to college that is !!! They were not before college. They brainwash all the kids these days. They are experts at using/manipulating statistics to sell their bullshit to young impressionable minds. When someone (like me) confronts one of them (like my son), they just say "your statistics are wrong & refuse to accept them, even though they are legit. Then they say "you can't believe everything you see on the internet". But they have no problem showing & using things from the internet when it "proves their point." It is actually quite comical yet also sad at the same time. I told them: the older you get, the more you will see why your mom & dad think & feel the way we do about things. :rofl: I told them it will be like that insurance commercial on tv............we can't stop you from becoming your parents ! :lol:
In WNY State. 2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls an 18' 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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