2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by BoldAdventure » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:50 pm

That is actually the going rate for big brake kits, pretty reasonable. I've paid that for my Corvette to have 6-piston brakes from Brembo.

You're talking 8 piston calipers here with a bigger clamping area than the stock brakes and larger. Plus, really you could skip the rear, and that would be $1995.00

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Based on the testing performance of the stock truck's stopping ability, you're talking a 50ft reduction in stopping distance. This would be a huge improvement for guys running bigger, heavier wheels.

This is def high on the WISHLIST. But probably in the same spot as AEV heat extraction hood. Gears, Hydro, other stuff long before.
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Bill2014 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:41 pm

Still thinking it is overkill (for a non-race truck)

I would want to prove that simply installing EBC Orange or Yellow pads all around for less than $600 wouldn't be more than adequate to kick the ABS on - on the pavement (on an unloaded truck). :popcorn:
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by RustyPW » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:05 pm

Bill2014 wrote:
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Still thinking it is overkill (for a non-race truck)

I would want to prove that simply installing EBC Orange or Yellow pads all around for less than $600 wouldn't be more than adequate to kick the ABS on - on the pavement (on an unloaded truck). :popcorn:
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by PWJouster » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:53 pm

haha just swapping rotors and pads on the hellcat was going to be over $4k.. big brakes, means big money...literally why i had to sell it. rotors where trashed.


i will gladly swap the rotors and pads for high performance when the time comes...but im not underwhelmed by the performance of stock on 35s.

maybe with 37s, bumpers, sliders, and overland gear i would be looking for more...
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Reloaderguy » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:01 pm

I have had no issues with my brakes and 37's. The truck stops just fine.
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Rodeoflyer » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:13 pm

When I needed new brakes a month or so ago, I purchased the autozone duralast high carbon, gold rotors and duralast max pads . The stock rotors were fine at 80k miles which was surprising but I replaced them. The brake parts are the same brakes as a stock 2500 designed to stop 30k lb loads repeatedly.

They stop much better than the original rotors and pads.

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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Bigdodge » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:20 am

I have ssbc 2 piston calipers on my 99 1500 and they do work great. Had them for about 12-13 years. Never had a problem. Just grease the slides once a year. Big improvement for that truck.

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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by HeavyDuty » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:57 pm

Tried mine out last night. In reverse, low range. Hard to stop. But that’s a lot of torque. Plus you’ve got the elevated idle in low range. I’m sure they are all the same.
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by TwinStick » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:24 am

3rd Gen here but i used the one click Z-36 package from PowerStop. VERY happy with the increased stopping power while towing the camper. It's like Murphy's Law, when you are towing & at speed, everyone wants to pull right out in front of you at the last second.

Yesterday, I even proved it to my wife...not towing though. Coming up on a 4 way intersection with a 2 way stop @ 55 mph, & headlights on. 1/2 mile away, car pulls up to stop sign & stops. There was no other traffic coming from any other direction, just us. I counted out loud to one-thousand-twelve, we were only about 150' from intersection & they pulled right out in front of us.......... :angry: People are AWESOME !!!! :roll:
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Will » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:22 pm

My 2010 would give you a head rush stopping with 37's no matter what 2hi, 4hi, 4lo... Plus, I'm pretty sure, even the new ones disable abs in 4lo. Steep hill, 4lo, takes a lot of brake no matter what in that circumstance.


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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Lazarus » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:54 pm

A couple days ago, 4low in reverse backing down a short 6% grade. brake bottomed all the way out and the truck just kept moving backward like no brakes were being applied. Popped to neutral and the brakes caught. Put back in reverse and same thing. So weird haha. oh well at this point, I guess that's just how it is.

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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Will » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:27 pm

That's the ole PW just trying to keep on going, like pulling the reins on a stubborn mule, will go and keep on trying. Hahaha
Lazarus wrote:A couple days ago, 4low in reverse backing down a short 6% grade. brake bottomed all the way out and the truck just kept moving backward like no brakes were being applied. Popped to neutral and the brakes caught. Put back in reverse and same thing. So weird haha. oh well at this point, I guess that's just how it is.

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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by EasyDoesIt » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:21 pm

Will wrote:
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That's the ole PW just trying to keep on going, like pulling the reins on a stubborn mule, will go and keep on trying.

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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Bill2014 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:48 am

The lowest gear we have in the 66-RFE is Reverse 4.44:1
Low range - down hill - reverse - the brakes don't have a chance!
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by TankerZak » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:53 am

Honestly this should be a warning. I was backing up on an obstacle in Moab in 4LO in reverse down a hill and the truck... would... not... stop... i had to throw it in neutral to stop it. Maybe we should mention this in PWiM next time because it caught me off guard...

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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by Bill2014 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:24 am

TankerZak wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:53 am
Honestly this should be a warning. I was backing up on an obstacle in Moab in 4LO in reverse down a hill and the truck... would... not... stop... i had to throw it in neutral to stop it. Maybe we should mention this in PWiM next time because it caught me off guard...

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And then add on the Low-range high idle mapping... the 6.4's actually generate some torque at high idle rpm's - but it's only an increase of 100 RPM up to 750 RPM...
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by RPS1030 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:05 pm

TankerZak wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:53 am
Honestly this should be a warning. I was backing up on an obstacle in Moab in 4LO in reverse down a hill and the truck... would... not... stop... i had to throw it in neutral to stop it. Maybe we should mention this in PWiM next time because it caught me off guard...

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Sounds like typical crawlers with autos and tight converters. Often will drive right thru the brakes in low range. Get used to popping it into neutral to stop.
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by olyelr » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:35 pm

I wonder if this has something to do with the programming of the hill descend control?
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by BoldAdventure » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:43 pm

Alright pulled the trigger. Will let you know how these bad boys stop.
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Re: 2018 Power Wagon Brake Issues

Post by EasyDoesIt » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:58 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:43 pm
Alright pulled the trigger. Will let you know how these bad boys stop.
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