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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by Colibri » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:43 pm

Loosing bed space is the only way I’ve found to hold a bigger tire reliably sadly
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by TommyG » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:41 pm

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The problems with geometry of a swingout on our trucks comes from the tire. If you have a 35” or smaller you don’t need to relocate the spare tire. So a bumper tire carrier is only for 37-40” tires. If you set a tire of that size on your bumper, you can see that in order to not have the tire itself kill your departure angle (ripping it off coming down a rock ledge would suck) you have to put the tire pretty high up. The tire ends up so high that it blocks part of your rear view. You can’t really keep it short and stubby in any way.

You could find some ways to make it work well and maybe someone will. I think a better solution exists.
I'm with you. Still have mine laying in the bed. Don't like the idea of it up on the roof or in the bed rack or somewhere else high either. I know you played with this. Do you think re-routing the exhaust then partially deflating a 37 and stuffing it up underneath would work?
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by TankerZak » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:52 pm

TommyG wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:07 pm
The problems with geometry of a swingout on our trucks comes from the tire. If you have a 35” or smaller you don’t need to relocate the spare tire. So a bumper tire carrier is only for 37-40” tires. If you set a tire of that size on your bumper, you can see that in order to not have the tire itself kill your departure angle (ripping it off coming down a rock ledge would suck) you have to put the tire pretty high up. The tire ends up so high that it blocks part of your rear view. You can’t really keep it short and stubby in any way.

You could find some ways to make it work well and maybe someone will. I think a better solution exists.
I'm with you. Still have mine laying in the bed. Don't like the idea of it up on the roof or in the bed rack or somewhere else high either. I know you played with this. Do you think re-routing the exhaust then partially deflating a 37 and stuffing it up underneath would work?
Same... mines in the bed ratcheted down. On the occasional time I need the full bed i take it out. I carry a tire patch kit and hope for the best.

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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by OffroadTreks » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:56 pm

ramv wrote:
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Guess what, they fold into your bed the moment you tap them. That's what it's for.
Hasn't been my experience? definitely was not the case on the second gen.

I do get the need/want for the tire carrier. Doesn't work for my applicaiton.

My point is, the bumper needs improve functionality, not just be a steel bar that's stronger than stock. Backup sensors, tag mount/lights, trailer plug can't just go away.
Then you've never dragged the corner.
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by Reloaderguy » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:53 pm

DamageWagon wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:07 pm
The problems with geometry of a swingout on our trucks comes from the tire. If you have a 35” or smaller you don’t need to relocate the spare tire. So a bumper tire carrier is only for 37-40” tires. If you set a tire of that size on your bumper, you can see that in order to not have the tire itself kill your departure angle (ripping it off coming down a rock ledge would suck) you have to put the tire pretty high up. The tire ends up so high that it blocks part of your rear view. You can’t really keep it short and stubby in any way.

You could find some ways to make it work well and maybe someone will. I think a better solution exists.
Make the swingout removeable and an accessory to the bumper...mind blown!

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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by DamageWagon » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:44 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:07 pm
The problems with geometry of a swingout on our trucks comes from the tire. If you have a 35” or smaller you don’t need to relocate the spare tire. So a bumper tire carrier is only for 37-40” tires. If you set a tire of that size on your bumper, you can see that in order to not have the tire itself kill your departure angle (ripping it off coming down a rock ledge would suck) you have to put the tire pretty high up. The tire ends up so high that it blocks part of your rear view. You can’t really keep it short and stubby in any way.

You could find some ways to make it work well and maybe someone will. I think a better solution exists.
Make the swingout removeable and an accessory to the bumper...mind blown!
Which does nothing to address the issues of the tire carrier :)

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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by DamageWagon » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:46 pm

TommyG wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:07 pm
The problems with geometry of a swingout on our trucks comes from the tire. If you have a 35” or smaller you don’t need to relocate the spare tire. So a bumper tire carrier is only for 37-40” tires. If you set a tire of that size on your bumper, you can see that in order to not have the tire itself kill your departure angle (ripping it off coming down a rock ledge would suck) you have to put the tire pretty high up. The tire ends up so high that it blocks part of your rear view. You can’t really keep it short and stubby in any way.

You could find some ways to make it work well and maybe someone will. I think a better solution exists.
I'm with you. Still have mine laying in the bed. Don't like the idea of it up on the roof or in the bed rack or somewhere else high either. I know you played with this. Do you think re-routing the exhaust then partially deflating a 37 and stuffing it up underneath would work?

Yes if you’re willing to make another compromise. You have to either ditch the tow hitch or if you’ve got a 03-13 you can chop the frame crossmember. Again not a great solution, especially ditching factory hitch. That’s been advertised a few times by companies offering a bumper with built in hitch, but man, these trucks get used to pull serious weight all the time. These aren’t Tacoma’s. Replicating a Class IV hitch is accepting some real liability.

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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by Will » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:51 pm

I still don't get it, the only time I back up is to pull someone else out and that's if I can't get em with the winch. Don't even need a bumper back there just a hitch. Hahaha


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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by TommyG » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:54 pm

DamageWagon wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:46 pm
TommyG wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:07 pm
The problems with geometry of a swingout on our trucks comes from the tire. If you have a 35” or smaller you don’t need to relocate the spare tire. So a bumper tire carrier is only for 37-40” tires. If you set a tire of that size on your bumper, you can see that in order to not have the tire itself kill your departure angle (ripping it off coming down a rock ledge would suck) you have to put the tire pretty high up. The tire ends up so high that it blocks part of your rear view. You can’t really keep it short and stubby in any way.

You could find some ways to make it work well and maybe someone will. I think a better solution exists.
I'm with you. Still have mine laying in the bed. Don't like the idea of it up on the roof or in the bed rack or somewhere else high either. I know you played with this. Do you think re-routing the exhaust then partially deflating a 37 and stuffing it up underneath would work?

Yes if you’re willing to make another compromise. You have to either ditch the tow hitch or if you’ve got a 03-13 you can chop the frame crossmember. Again not a great solution, especially ditching factory hitch. That’s been advertised a few times by companies offering a bumper with built in hitch, but man, these trucks get used to pull serious weight all the time. These aren’t Tacoma’s. Replicating a Class IV hitch is accepting some real liability.
Gotcha. Tow hitch is out, we pull a travel trailer often. I may still end up trying the Thuren bumper with a swing out and taking a chance on it. Honestly that scares me less than notching the frame. Thanks for walking me through it. I learn something worth while here every time I sign in.
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by ramv » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:41 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
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Then you've never dragged the corner.
I have. Many times. In Moab primarily. To the point where I needed to lock up going down hill.
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by Reloaderguy » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:33 pm

DamageWagon wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:44 pm
Reloaderguy wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:07 pm
The problems with geometry of a swingout on our trucks comes from the tire. If you have a 35” or smaller you don’t need to relocate the spare tire. So a bumper tire carrier is only for 37-40” tires. If you set a tire of that size on your bumper, you can see that in order to not have the tire itself kill your departure angle (ripping it off coming down a rock ledge would suck) you have to put the tire pretty high up. The tire ends up so high that it blocks part of your rear view. You can’t really keep it short and stubby in any way.

You could find some ways to make it work well and maybe someone will. I think a better solution exists.
Make the swingout removeable and an accessory to the bumper...mind blown!
Which does nothing to address the issues of the tire carrier :)
It does actually. The tire carrier is always going to suck; it's going to either block your your view and add weight above the bed rails or it's going to reduce departure angle (or both). If it's an accessory you can take it off and not be inconvenienced by it 100% of the time.

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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:25 pm

ramv wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:41 pm
I have. Many times. In Moab primarily. To the point where I needed to lock up going down hill.
Try harder. :thppt:

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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by Easttnrhino » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:35 pm

I agree on that is my pick also.
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Post by PWJouster » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:46 am

Pretty much what i want to see.
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by Bill2014 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm

A receiver that is 3 feet off the ground... :rofl:
Might as well be a Glory Hole at that height :rofl:
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by OffroadTreks » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:45 pm

Bill2014 wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm
A receiver that is 3 feet off the ground... :rofl:
Might as well be a Glory Hole at that height :rofl:
It fits in the receiver perfectly
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by RustyPW » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:40 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:45 pm
Bill2014 wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm
A receiver that is 3 feet off the ground... :rofl:
Might as well be a Glory Hole at that height :rofl:
It fits in the receiver perfectly
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Post by OffroadTreks » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:18 am

RustyPW wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:40 pm
BoldAdventure wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:45 pm
Bill2014 wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm
A receiver that is 3 feet off the ground... :rofl:
Might as well be a Glory Hole at that height :rofl:
It fits in the receiver perfectly
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That looks like a good time right there. :rofl:
Fixed it for ya. :wink:
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by RustyPW » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:52 am

BoldAdventure wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:18 am
RustyPW wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:40 pm
BoldAdventure wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:45 pm


It fits in the receiver perfectly
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That looks like a good time right there. :rofl:
Fixed it for ya. :wink:
Ya........you fixed it. :roll:
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

Post by olyelr » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:58 am

Bill2014 wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm
A receiver that is 3 feet off the ground... :rofl:
Might as well be a Glory Hole at that height :rofl:
Yea but you can always use one of these :D
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Post by OffroadTreks » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:34 am

That looks totally safe.
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BoldAdventure wrote:
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That looks totally safe.
Must be safe - there's rings for the safety chains... :poke:
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Re: New Rear Bumper?

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olyelr wrote:
Bill2014 wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm
A receiver that is 3 feet off the ground... :rofl:
Might as well be a Glory Hole at that height :rofl:
Yea but you can always use one of these :D
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Low_Sky wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:52 am

Thanks for adding this pic Olyelr. I was getting tired of seeing the fleshlight in my Tapatalk feed.

Why did we quote the picture so many times? :rofl:

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Tapatalk just shows the last picture in the thread. Quotes or no quotes, until somebody posts something different.....

I know it’s a pretty casual atmosphere around here, but it’s seemed like lately there’s been a lot of off topic derailments. Sex toys, innuendos, homophobic remarks, etc. I like this place a lot more when we just talk about trucks.


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