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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by OffroadTreks » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:55 pm

olyelr wrote:
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BoldAdventure wrote:
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Hardwire has been one of the best mods to date. I just recommend everyone ditch the factory setup.
Do you happen to have a video or any info on how you went about this? It seems like you posted something before, but it was on instagram or facebook where I could not view it. I would love to see what you did and how you got it done. I am done waiting for a plug and play setup. I could care less if I have to add extra switches, and cutting into the factory wiring doesn't really scare me much anymore.

Does you factory switch still operate as intended?
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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by olyelr » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:01 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:55 pm

Actually, this was faster than me wasting my time with Youtube >>

https://photos.app.goo.gl/o6SnS3shByAiBLUN8

Disclaimer, it was filmed for Instagram, so it's vertical and I filmed it for total n00bs so there is a bunch of explanation in there.
Thats gonna work, thanks! This noob will be checking it out for sure!
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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:57 pm

olyelr wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:41 pm
BoldAdventure wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:31 am
Hardwire has been one of the best mods to date. I just recommend everyone ditch the factory setup.
Does your factory switch still operate as intended?
No, the factory switch will no longer work.

My own personal criteria for hardwiring would be:
  • The factory system dies.
  • I can’t fix it.
  • The warranty has expired.
  • Parts become obsolete.
I assume that most of these points played a role in BoldAdventures decision to hardwire, not to mention the time constraints for Moab.

I would prefer to keep the factory system functional as long as possible unless it became cost prohibitive.

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by olyelr » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:35 am

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I would prefer to keep the factory system functional as long as possible unless it became cost prohibitive.
If the lockers functioned as well as the Jeep Rubicon setup I would agree. But the periodic struggle with them is annoying. I would love to just be able to flip a switch and BAM their locked.

What if the hardwire "taps" did not actually cut through (split) the original wire, but just tied into it (with some type of waterproof T setup, or those cheap taps I used on my jeep)... would the factory switch still work then? Oh hell I dont know, I guess I dont even know why I care if the factory switch would even work anymore... I know I would never use it again.
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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by Bill2014 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:48 am

olyelr wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:35 am
Retired BLM Rig wrote:
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I would prefer to keep the factory system functional as long as possible unless it became cost prohibitive.
...What if the hardwire "taps" did not actually cut through (split) the original wire...

^^^^ wire vampire tap :idea:
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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by olyelr » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:57 am

Im not really sure what that is. I wanna say what was in the kit that i sourced was something like a “posi-tap”.
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Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:38 am

You could do that. You'd just be over-riding the system and giving it 12 volt. You could even wire right into the harness near the smart bar if you want to dig through that harness. The way I did it seemed the easiest to me and fastest to figure out. Boom bang done.

And it's pretty instant. Used a bunch in Moab and it was nice to just hit the button have them locked, hit the button, have them unlocked while I was in the middle of doing an obstacle. Which was a huge advantage.

As you recall my smart bar was damaged, and I didn't have time to get it repaired. My system worked fine before the damaged pins. According to PitSlave you need to do some serious soldering. And when I took it apart, I knew I wasn't fixing it myself with a few days to go. But I don't regret hardwiring them. I also switched to the manual disconnect. Which has also been fantastic. Lots of roads made smooth that I don't need 4WD on but can still have my sway bar disconnected.

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by aleelopez » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:59 pm

Any video on installing the relays and where you bought the switches? Will this mod work on a 2008 Power Wagon?

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Post by TankerZak » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:16 pm

aleelopez wrote:Any video on installing the relays and where you bought the switches? Will this mod work on a 2008 Power Wagon?
Someone is now developing a bypass. Should be done anytime now. For real this time... he also made a nanny bypass.

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by aleelopez » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:31 pm

Where can I get and price?

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Post by aleelopez » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:32 pm

Need to get on any list?

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Post by olyelr » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:26 am

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by MOPARManiac » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:15 pm

I'll revive this thread. Lockers worked fine last weekend while hunting. Today they worked for a while and then the lights all were flashing again. Damn things anyway. The sway bar disconnect is working fine. I was busting a lot of snow drifts today, really needed them. Even without the lockers I was able to go where no one else has even attempted to go. Sure glad the winch works.....
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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by OffRoadRescue » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:16 pm

Refer to my post check the connector behind the ECU with all the yellow wires make short is plugged in and locked that's what I found that controls all the lockers it was unlocked from the factory clean the connection snap it in locked red tab and I was good to go .
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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by MOPARManiac » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:36 pm

I've found that if I disconnect the battery it resets whatever is screwed up, I really think it's something with the smartbar. The lockers will then work fine for a while, until they don't. My bypass from retired BLM rig will be here tomorrow.
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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:10 pm

What boggles my mind is that Jeep can get their lockers to work almost instantly, as well as my wife’s Colorado ZR2, but Ram can’t get their shit together and just make a simple system that works like it should.
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Post by Ducky's Dad » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:20 pm

I got my '05 stuck three times in deep sand in September and I could lock the front diff but not the rear diff. Tried to crawl out of the sand and the fronts were doing what they are supposed to do but the rears were just slinging sand, even with the limited slip. New transfer case position sensor went in last year, so I guess it's time to clean the magnets again. Anyone tried a magnetic diff plug on a cast iron or steel cover (Rock Crusher in rear)?

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by RustyPW » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:53 am

Ducky's Dad wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:20 pm
I got my '05 stuck three times in deep sand in September and I could lock the front diff but not the rear diff. Tried to crawl out of the sand and the fronts were doing what they are supposed to do but the rears were just slinging sand, even with the limited slip. New transfer case position sensor went in last year, so I guess it's time to clean the magnets again. Anyone tried a magnetic diff plug on a cast iron or steel cover (Rock Crusher in rear)?
I haven't tried the magnets on my Rock Crushers.
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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by DamageWagon » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:00 am

I run a FilterMag inside the diff case. It works excellent. The sensor magnet has stayed almost spotless for a few years now.

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by MOPARManiac » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:04 am

04Ram2500Hemi wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:10 pm
What boggles my mind is that Jeep can get their lockers to work almost instantly, as well as my wife’s Colorado ZR2, but Ram can’t get their shit together and just make a simple system that works like it should.
I think it's all the safety nannies that Ram put on the lockers. They certainly made them way to difficult, I'm looking forward to putting the locker bypass on.
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Post by Ducky's Dad » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:53 pm

I found this while I was looking for magnetic plugs. Gale Banks on designing the optimal diff cover. Never thought much about fluid dynamics inside a diff, but this is one of the best videos I have ever seen on YouTube. Worth watching. And they did the dyno testing on a Dodge CTD. The covers for 2500s are on sale now for $400, shipping later this month.

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by RustyPW » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:21 pm

Ducky's Dad wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:53 pm
I found this while I was looking for magnetic plugs. Gale Banks on designing the optimal diff cover. Never thought much about fluid dynamics inside a diff, but this is one of the best videos I have ever seen on YouTube. Worth watching. And they did the dyno testing on a Dodge CTD. The covers for 2500s are on sale now for $400, shipping later this month.

How to Engineer the Perfect Differential Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdtmDl5EDJ8
You're late to the party. :lol: We have a whole thread in this.
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Post by Ducky's Dad » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:41 pm

You're late to the party. :lol: We have a whole thread in this.
I guess I need to get out more.

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by RustyPW » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:09 pm

Ducky's Dad wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:41 pm
You're late to the party. :lol: We have a whole thread in this.
I guess I need to get out more.
:lol:

Here's the link to the thread.

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Re: Locker Issues....

Post by MOPARManiac » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:11 pm

Got my locker bypass installed and my lockers lock up so fast now. Thanks Again Retired BLM Rig, your manufacturing is very nice. Great, well put together product.
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