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PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:31 am
by Rob-Pod
I'm going to be buying a 06 Hemi Mega Cab very soon n I've been thinking about
swapping the suspension n axles from my 05 Power Wagon under the Mega Cab.

Reason being is because I know I wont get anywhere near the $ I have into my PW,
Even with it being very clean, heated leather n suede seats, NO Rust, 177K, a 2005,
QCSB, paint is in pretty good shape with the exception of some chalky clear coat on
the roof I'd be lucky to get $10,500 for it. So if I swap axles n the suspension (control
n pitman arms) I'd be a lil better with not getting what I think my truck is worth.

I've seen write ups for hotwiring the lockers in a PW, I'd like to know how n what
to wire on a NON Power Wagon. I'm sure I'm not the 1st person to do this, Right?

For me the Lockers n SmartBar have Never worked in this truck, but I'd like to try n
get them to work in my new (to me) truck. I'm also gonna put the winch on my Mega Cab.


Also plan on taking the PW badging and adding a few letters to make it say MEGA POWER WAGON.

If things go the way I hope they will (they usually don't) I wanna add a Turbo n a SRT 6.1.

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:42 am
by Low_Sky
To add the axles, the wiring is very easy. Just need 12V hot and ground wires, and switches in the cab. The other two wires in the plug are for the sensing required by the smart bar. A little searching on this forum will show you the pin outs in the plugs. If you want to move the smart bar over, just do it with an EVO manual knob.

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:28 pm
by Reloaderguy
The loss you're going to take selling the Power Wagon without locking axles and winch will exceed the cost of lockers and a winch in the new truck. Wiring the electric lockers is simple, it's just positive and negative through a relay.

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:06 pm
by olyelr
Reloaderguy wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:28 pm
The loss you're going to take selling the Power Wagon without locking axles and winch will exceed the cost of lockers and a winch in the new truck. Wiring the electric lockers is simple, it's just positive and negative through a relay.
Boom bang pow

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:02 pm
by RustyPW
Taking the axles and winch from a PW cuts the value of the PW. Those parts is what makes the PW. How many people lurk here looking for info on used PW's. And putting PW badges on something that's not a PW. Get your flame suit on.

:winchmob:

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:40 am
by Retired BLM Rig
A Mega Wagon is my dream truck. :popcorn:

This is the connector you'll need for the axles.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Harley-4X-GR ... m570.l1313

Use these plugs to cap off the two empty cavities you'll have in the connector.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Harley-Mole ... 1105712565

You'll need this kind of tool to crimp the terminals correctly.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Molex-Style-Cr ... .TRS0.TSS0

Hardwire Diagram 5.jpg
Using relays would be best but here's a basic diagram.
You don't have to run the 12V negative wires back to the battery, they could just ground to the frame.

locker_plug_connector.jpeg
This is how to orient the wires in the connector.
Good luck! :patriot:

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:03 am
by KevinABQ
There is a crazy Canadian who transplanted all the parts from a crashed PW to a Cummins. It works pretty well, but you’ll be nose heavy. He built a big AR steel front bumper and winch mount, as the winch won’t fit inside with the diesel.

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:42 am
by olyelr
A Canadian that’s crazy?!

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:39 am
by Retired BLM Rig
KevinABQ wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:03 am
There is a crazy Canadian who transplanted all the parts from a crashed PW to a Cummins. It works pretty well, but you’ll be nose heavy. He built a big AR steel front bumper and winch mount, as the winch won’t fit inside with the diesel.
Rob-Pod said his Mega Cab is a Hemi, so he should have zero issues doing a swap.
Also since none of the components currently function correctly on the PW, he would have to sell it at less than full value or diag and repair everything just to sell it for low BB due to high milage and paint issues. I fully support the idea to swap and hardwire, he'll increase the resale value of the Mega Cab and sell the PW as a regular 2500.

However, it does seem like there should be a moment of silence after the PW is castrated. :cry:

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:05 am
by RPS1030
I had a similar fleeting thought recently about actually going the other way to a quadcab diesel (just me and the GF and a medium dog), but that wasn't ever offered with the recent radius arms.

Test drove a 17 and a 06 diesel last week. I'll keep the PW.

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:03 pm
by 06wagon
I’ll sell you a 6.1 motor.... ;)

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:38 pm
by Colibri
How much?

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:32 am
by 06wagon
$7000.

Ported 6.1 intake, ported thitek heads, domed pistons. Makes about 600-625hp on pump gas

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:37 pm
by Rob-Pod
(Waking A Dead Thread)

Now that My PW Swap is done, thankfully didn't have any real issues.

What color wires do I tap to "HotWire" both of my lockers? Do I need a
special switch for the lockers? Is there a way to "HotWire" the sway bar
also, because I'm also gonna gank that also. Making a Mega Power Wagon.

I'm not a huge fan of wiring, but this is just tapping a few different wires.

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:56 pm
by Retired BLM Rig
The locker wires don't exist in the Mega Cab wiring harness. You're going to have to tap into the big red and big black wire on top of the battery. :lol:

There's currently no hardwire option for the sway bar. :cry:

Any switch with a rating of 10 amps or more per axle should do the trick.

Post some pics! :rockon:

Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:13 pm
by Low_Sky
Rob-Pod wrote:(Waking A Dead Thread)

Now that My PW Swap is done, thankfully didn't have any real issues.

What color wires do I tap to "HotWire" both of my lockers? Do I need a
special switch for the lockers? Is there a way to "HotWire" the sway bar
also, because I'm also gonna gank that also. Making a Mega Power Wagon.

I'm not a huge fan of wiring, but this is just tapping a few different wires.
EVO Manufacturing manual sway bar actuator, same one they sell for the Rubicons. Or the air-actuated model if you’re going to have OBA and want to do it from the cab.


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Re: PW Axle n Suspension Swap Question (& Locker Wiring)

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:57 am
by OffroadTreks
Yup, EVO manual is hard to beat for the price. Yes, you have to manually turn it. It's not so bad really.