10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

If it's about Power Wagons, all generations, this is where it'll go. This is the original PWR Forum Power Wagon Technical Discussion Section. And this includes everything that doesn’t fit in any one of the other categories related to the truck goes here!
Post Reply
FordyceCreekTrail
500_Posts
500_Posts
Posts: 559
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:31 pm
Model Year: 2014
Location: Albuquerque

10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:03 am

With 8 months and 18K under my belt, here are my top 10 things to hate, and to love about the Power Wagon.

Things to Hate;

10. MPG
9. No rear step system
8. Front bumper needs angled ends like other modern 4x4s
7. Ground Clearance under some chassis parts
6. Garage Door opener barely transmits
5. No rear tail gate dampener, very odd
4. No Electrical out lets in bed. VERY Ghetto. Fridge is a PIA
3. Tire size for truck is too small
2. Weight, would be far more capable with even a small weight savings along with MPG
1. Dura Trash Tires don't hold air

Things to Love:

10. Fit and Finish
9. Dual Alternators
8. 8.4 Uconnect
7. Accepts 35s from factory
6. Heavy duty drive-train basis
5. Solid Towing capacity for an off-road truck
4. Sexy Looks
3. Only Factory Sway Bar Disconnect
2. Only Factory Dual Lockers
1. Only Factory Winch
2018 Flame Red, Moon Roof, Dual Alternators, Ram Boxes sadly Ram ran out of, Luxo Package with 8.4 UConnect, Enter and Go with remote start, Auto Wipers and Lights. Added missing skids and White Knuckle sliders. 35" BFG KM3s. Procal and Warn wireless remote for winch.

jambbii
Posts: 17
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:32 am
Model Year: 2014

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by jambbii » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:30 am

I have an 18 that is a week old. The garage transmitter worked better than the factory liftmaster one!

FordyceCreekTrail
500_Posts
500_Posts
Posts: 559
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:31 pm
Model Year: 2014
Location: Albuquerque

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:47 am

Man, not mine. Dealer insists its fine.
2018 Flame Red, Moon Roof, Dual Alternators, Ram Boxes sadly Ram ran out of, Luxo Package with 8.4 UConnect, Enter and Go with remote start, Auto Wipers and Lights. Added missing skids and White Knuckle sliders. 35" BFG KM3s. Procal and Warn wireless remote for winch.

User avatar
Reloaderguy
2000_Posts
2000_Posts
Posts: 2193
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:06 am
Model Year: 2016
Location: Central Oregon

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by Reloaderguy » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:01 am

My garage transmitter works great. I switched out a garage door opener and function was buggy when used close to the original remote. It's not the truck's fault garage doors are kind of crappy.

User avatar
RamGentry
250_Posts
250_Posts
Posts: 296
Joined: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:38 pm
Model Year: 2010

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by RamGentry » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:02 pm

Yea, i get 12! ....on 37s :shock:
If I start listing Mods I would have to change the list daily
My build thread http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=3593

waldo
250_Posts
250_Posts
Posts: 426
Joined: Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:46 am
Model Year: 2019

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by waldo » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:17 pm

I get 15-16 on the freeway out of my 16. The 07 gets 12 going downhill, with a stiff tailwind. :P
2007 and 2019 Power Wagons

User avatar
DamageWagon
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 2303
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 am
Model Year: 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by DamageWagon » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:20 pm

He didn’t say he gets 10mpg... its #10 on the list :run:

I get 13mpg on 37’s in my ‘11. But that just goes with having the best year of Power Wagon.

FordyceCreekTrail
500_Posts
500_Posts
Posts: 559
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:31 pm
Model Year: 2014
Location: Albuquerque

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:01 pm

I can get 18 on the highway. But combined average is around 14. I drive up a mtn to get home. I look at it this way, if they reduced weight it would also be more capable off-road. Its not just about MPG. My wife's 2015 Four runner opens the garage door perfectly every time. Mine barely opens it and only when next to it.
2018 Flame Red, Moon Roof, Dual Alternators, Ram Boxes sadly Ram ran out of, Luxo Package with 8.4 UConnect, Enter and Go with remote start, Auto Wipers and Lights. Added missing skids and White Knuckle sliders. 35" BFG KM3s. Procal and Warn wireless remote for winch.

User avatar
HammerTime
50_Posts
50_Posts
Posts: 110
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:46 am
Model Year: 2017
Location: Lakeside CA

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by HammerTime » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:57 am

My list of things to hate:
1. The stock Duratracks suck.

Things to love:
Same 10 as yours...:)

This is my 3rd Power Wagon so I knew all your things to hate were part of the deal before I bought it....:)
2017 White/Black Power Wagon

ramv
500_Posts
500_Posts
Posts: 650
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:36 am

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by ramv » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:28 pm

MPG is what I love? 15 mpg average the last 8000 miles. Compared to my much more aerodynamic and lighter, and 100 HP less Chevy, that's impressive. It got 12-13. On 285s, not the 315s I have now.

Only thing I hate is the transmission shifter. Both that you can't lock it into a gear, and that you can't shift manually without the buttons. A L or some other setting where you could shift would be helpful Or just put a G56 in it and be down with it. Tow Haul button location, same issue, but I am learning. Just sucks to take your eyes off the road to find a critical switch.

Would like the swaybar to unlock above 18 mph but that's not a hate. Just a wish. With 2WD low switch, I have pretty much got around all the other nannies.

Rear winch options would be nice.

Big love for me. I can run 315s (35"s) with chains. Stock. Factory winch. Lockers. Great interior. Decent transmission. Would be nice to have a 4:1 low range like my 2nd Gen.
2016 Laramie; 5.13s, Locker Bypass, WK sliders, 35" Toyo MT, 2Lo Kit, ProCal, Hemifever tune, Airbags/Cradles, Thuren 2.5" King w/ Boogie Bumps, Warn SDP6000

TwinStick

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by TwinStick » Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:27 am

FordyceCreekTrail wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:03 am
With 8 months and 18K under my belt, here are my top 10 things to hate, and to love about the Power Wagon.

Things to Hate;

10. MPG
9. No rear step system
8. Front bumper needs angled ends like other modern 4x4s
7. Ground Clearance under some chassis parts
6. Garage Door opener barely transmits
5. No rear tail gate dampener, very odd
4. No Electrical out lets in bed. VERY Ghetto. Fridge is a PIA
3. Tire size for truck is too small
2. Weight, would be far more capable with even a small weight savings along with MPG
1. Dura Trash Tires don't hold air

Things to Love:

10. Fit and Finish
9. Dual Alternators
8. 8.4 Uconnect
7. Accepts 35s from factory
6. Heavy duty drive-train basis
5. Solid Towing capacity for an off-road truck
4. Sexy Looks
3. Only Factory Sway Bar Disconnect
2. Only Factory Dual Lockers
1. Only Factory Winch
Not for nothing (Lord knows I have had truck issues as well) but many of those on the hate list are really easily remedied. None of us bought one for mpg---that's a fact. The nature of physics. I know it sucks, spending so much on a truck & then having to put more money into it. Tires--- you can fix that easily. tailgate can be fixed for around $30. Fridge in bed can be fixed for $45 (no factory wiring would be heavy duty enough anyways), I just did this in our 4 runner & an doing it in the PW as well. Use the ARB wiring/plug install kit, it is HD. Exhaust can be easily cut-taken to muffler shop-expanded so it becomes a slip on, & clamp it back in place for inspections.

But yeah, it should have better off-road bumpers for sure & rear should have tow hooks as well.

FordyceCreekTrail
500_Posts
500_Posts
Posts: 559
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:31 pm
Model Year: 2014
Location: Albuquerque

Re: 10 Things to Love and 10 Things to Hate

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:01 pm

I like things from the factory to start out right. Now I will say the Fourrunner outlet is a POS and wont really run the cooler. I only have the ARB outlet in my 1996 Montero right now.

That is part of the problem with the Fourrunner. It will be 20K plus to get it on the better trails. It needs EVERYTHING, lift, tires, front locker, bumpers, gears, winch.....And still no solid front axle. Some day I will do it for a trail rig. But honestly a Jeep will likely be our next trail rig for retirement some day. Its just easier to start with as much as you can.
2018 Flame Red, Moon Roof, Dual Alternators, Ram Boxes sadly Ram ran out of, Luxo Package with 8.4 UConnect, Enter and Go with remote start, Auto Wipers and Lights. Added missing skids and White Knuckle sliders. 35" BFG KM3s. Procal and Warn wireless remote for winch.

Post Reply