Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

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Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by PWJouster » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:22 pm

Don was seriously helpful while I was being very inarticulate in my wants and needs acting like a teething baby or 6 month old male puppy.

I have come to this below build to start off my powerwagon dreams. my intent are to install the below, and address sway bars and stabilizers after the fact.
with the release of the 3.0 came the trigger finger swiftly.
stage 3 front
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aggressive daily driving with speeds up to 80MPH and swiftly exiting and entering highways and driveways.

king 3.0 front
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springs
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2013+ FRONT COILS
CHOOSE ENGINE AND HEIGHT OPTION
2014+ RAM 2500 HEMI 3.00" FRONT LIFT
TF-RAFC-13UP-14ULRFC-2H3$320.00
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$320.00
2014+ 2500 REAR COIL KIT
SELECT HEIGHT OPTION
1" LIFT REAR COIL KIT
TF-4LRCEL-14U-4LRCK1"LIFT$520.00
Ordered: 1
$520.00
2013+ FRONT TRACK BAR
TF-RAFTB-18MM$330.00
Ordered: 1
$330.00
14+ 2500 REAR TRACKBAR KIT
TF-RLR2500-TBK$330.00
Ordered: 1
$330.00
BOOGIE BUMP PAIR
MOUTNING BRACKET
Front moutning brackets - Pair
Lift Height
0-3"
TF-BBSTO-PAIR-BBFBO-BRPR$280.00
Ordered: 1
$280.00
BOOGIE BUMP PAIR
MOUTNING BRACKET
Rear mounting brackets - Pair
Lift Height
0-3"
TF-BBSTO-PAIR-BBRBO-BRPR$280.00
Ordered: 1
$280.00
THUREN KING 3.0 FRONT
SHOCK POSITION
FRONT PAIR REMOTE RESERVOIR - FOR 2013+ 3500 / 2014+ 25 ...
SHOCK POSITION
FRONT PAIR REMOTE RESERVOIR - FOR 2013+ 3500 / 2014+ 2500
FRONT RESERVOIR MOUNTS
REQUIRED TO MOUNT THESE FRONT SHOCKS
VALVING TUNE OPTION
STAGE 3
Please enter truck information, suspension setup, use and other information that may help with shock valving. Example: 2006 Ram 2500, Thuren front coils, stock rear leafs with air bags. Tow 15k often on wash board roads.
DON LOADED CART. 2018 POWER WAGON. FOCUS ON WASHBOARD C ...
Please enter truck information, suspension setup, use and other information that may help with shock valving. Example: 2006 Ram 2500, Thuren front coils, stock rear leafs with air bags. Tow 15k often on wash board roads.
DON LOADED CART. 2018 POWER WAGON. FOCUS ON WASHBOARD CONTROL AND ALSO MODERATE REBOUND FOR SLOW SPEED STABILITY.
TF-KING30-RA-TF-KS30F-RA9-RESMK-13U$1,585.00
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$1,585.00
THUREN KING 2.5 SHOCKS
SHOCK POSITION
REAR PIN-SHAFT PAIR FOR 2014+ 2500
FRONT RESERVOIR MOUNTS
NOT NEEDED. ORDERING REAR SHOCKS
LEAF SPRUNG 3500 REAR SHOCKS
I HAVE A 2500
STAINLESS STEEL SHAFTS
STAINLESS STEEL SHAFTS
SHOCK BODY COLOR
BLACK CERAKOTE BODY AND BLACK RESERVOIR
ALUMINUM ENDS/CAPS COLOR
STANDARD KING BLUE
REMOTE RESERVOIR
STANDARD SILVER
VALVING TUNE OPTION
STAGE 3
YES I UNDERSTAND TIMELINE
WE ARE ON KING'S TIMELINE. 5-6 WEEKS MINIMUM.
Please enter truck information, suspension setup, use and other information that may help with shock valving. Example: 2006 Ram 2500, Thuren front coils, stock rear leafs with air bags. Tow 15k often on wash board roads.
NO TOWING. MODERATE REBOUND FOR EXTRA STABILITY
TF-KING25-RA-TF-KS25R-10PP-SS-SHAFTS-BLACK-BODY$1,345.00
Ordered: 1
$1,345.00

SUSPENSION ORDERED

Waiting game begins

looking forward to this build more then ever and cant wait to update everyone with delivery, install , and outcome data.



who knew i would be looking at king 3.0 for the front!!!
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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by ramv » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:25 pm

Awesome. Keep us updated.
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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by PWJouster » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:09 am

the way Thuren will artfully deliver these kings, the petite 35s, the black on black on black... im thinking this suspension will need some rock lights.
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Post by BoldAdventure » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:26 am

Yup, those 3.0's came out right after I put in my order for the 2.5's. But I don't really need the 3.0's as awesome as they would be since I have everything setup for slower speeds and crawling.

Now you get to wait around like the rest of us mortals in anticipation.
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Post by yellowranger1 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:15 am

The 3.0s will be badass! I think my favorite part about them is that they're coming in black cerakote... DROOL.

I'm really happy with the performance of my 2.5s, the 3.0s will only be better. Congrats on the killer setup! Where are you located? I know one guy down my way who ordered the 3.0s but he's putting them on a diesel.

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Post by coder » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:59 am

My understanding is anything larger than 2.5's would be too large to fit through, without hitting, the rear shock holes in the frame has that be addressed somehow?
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Post by BoldAdventure » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:17 pm

coder wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:59 am
My understanding is anything larger than 2.5's would be too large to fit through, withing hitting, the rear shock holes in the frame has that be addressed somehow?
No, these are Pintops for the front only currently.

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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by PWJouster » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm

yellowranger1 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:15 am
The 3.0s will be badass! I think my favorite part about them is that they're coming in black cerakote... DROOL.

I'm really happy with the performance of my 2.5s, the 3.0s will only be better. Congrats on the killer setup! Where are you located? I know one guy down my way who ordered the 3.0s but he's putting them on a diesel.
in in south florida so i wont be getting much dune bashing in, but i should be able to explore high speed gravel fire roads with washouts and ruts .


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Post by BoldAdventure » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:48 pm

I've been out there. Seems more like a mud hole to me. Not going very fast at all. All the times we went out. Options in Florida are limited.
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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by PWJouster » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:26 pm

MikeKey wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:48 pm
I've been out there. Seems more like a mud hole to me. Not going very fast at all. All the times we went out. Options in Florida are limited.
there is a ton of mud holes but the high grade can be take high speed, and there are clearing if you know where to look. ive seen buggies get launched into the air lol
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Post by coder » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:54 pm

MikeKey wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:17 pm
No, these are Pintops for the front only currently.

https://www.thurenfabrication.com/produ ... front.html
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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by Rodeoflyer » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:01 pm

You'll be able to 'explore' a lot with those dampers including tearing up anything on roads made for common vehicles. I'm on full thuren springs, boogies, trackbars f/r, and king stage 5 front/4 rear. After 10k miles they are starting to break in and getting very, very smooth..

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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by PWJouster » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:30 am

Rodeoflyer wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:01 pm
You'll be able to 'explore' a lot with those dampers including tearing up anything on roads made for common vehicles. I'm on full thuren springs, boogies, trackbars f/r, and king stage 5 front/4 rear. After 10k miles they are starting to break in and getting very, very smooth..

there is an entrance ramp to the highway that has an incline of about 10% that makes a sharp bank to the right to enter the highway 20 feet above grade.

this is 100% my testing and proving grounds.
i take this entrance ramp 5 days a week, typically free and clear road ahead. 10-20-30-40-45MPH easy. i say easy because i have balls of aluminum and a great sense of when vehicles are unsettled (track and offroad experience)

this entrance ramp is part of construction that will never end(i hope it wont before the install) and has terrible uneven pavement layers and patches and potholes.

the stock truck would get very unsettled at anything over 25MPH. the rear end would wag, and the steering wheel will turn lock to lock with the abruptness of flexing front axles and rear end squirm.(45 MPH and it feels like youve done a corkscrew on a rollercoaster) not everyone has experienced extreme steering wheel input from high speed axle articulation. I almost lost a couple fingers.

clearly this is only one of the many ride improvements ill be evaluating, but i believe it will lead to the biggest sense of overall control ive gained.

the stock goodyears would howl on this ramp and instill a sense of rear end slippage and sidewall flex, but the toyos at the same pressure have already improved the handling of this and helped the truck feel planted. GOODYEARS ARE NOT IDEAL
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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by DamageWagon » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:44 am

Rear end wag in large part is due to the rear trackbar

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Post by BoldAdventure » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:16 am

Sounds like you bought the wrong vehicle.
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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by PWJouster » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:34 am

MikeKey wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:16 am
Sounds like you bought the wrong vehicle.
haha how so?

ive owned a myriad of different types of vehicles
2010 335i RWD COBB tuned TT 18PSI
2013 S6 Audi APR tuned 600+ HP Quattro
2015 BMW x5 50i BMS TT tuned AWD -almost at X5M capability
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i think i know what im looking for, and unless you mean raptor vs PW debate, im good to go.

i may have explained poorly but im not sure where you assumed
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Post by Reloaderguy » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:54 am

Rear track bar, sway bar, tires. The shocks won't change the geometry.
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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by PWJouster » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:00 am

Reloaderguy wrote:
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Rear track bar, sway bar, tires. The shocks won't change the geometry.
of course they wont, but i sure do bet they change the geometry of my heart.

im only looking for the improvement, i know this is not a trophy truck nor a F.
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Post by Rodeoflyer » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:27 pm

It's a solid front axle truck. No getting around that. If you bought a PW thinking it would handle and drive like a IFS truck (or your sports car) forget it. The solid front axle is very strong but it's heavy. With the right spring and shock combo it can deal with rough terrain and road conditions but you still have a 3/4 ton truck front and rear axle.

It's not a trophy truck...and will never be. I would like to try those 3.0 kings. Stage 4 front and rear would be perfect.

You will receive your shocks in probably mid-april. I do like your style :) .

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Post by BoldAdventure » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:28 pm

I got my Kings on Friday! W00T!
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Post by Colibri » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:44 pm

MikeKey wrote:
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I got my Kings on Friday! W00T!
Congratulations!
Now get trussed before your front axle starts smiling at you
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Post by BoldAdventure » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:30 am

Colibri wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:44 pm
Congratulations!
Now get trussed before your front axle starts smiling at you
Way ahead of you. :cheers:
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Re: Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

Post by cb1987 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:14 pm

whats the truss for. one of the magazines was jumping a pw and didnt mention any problem

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Post by MedicWill » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:41 pm

even the power wagon will sag with that much weight
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Post by DamageWagon » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:13 pm

cb1987 wrote:
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whats the truss for. one of the magazines was jumping a pw and didnt mention any problem
Yeah there’s never a problem when:
- it’s free
- you don’t have to maintain it
- you don’t have it long enough to know you completely fucked the axle

The new trucks can’t take the beating the older trucks could, the front axle is 5 distinct sections and can bend easily. The older trucks bent front axles all the time I’m really hard hits but they could take a lot more and could be bent back. You don’t even have to get air in the new trucks to bend them. I can almost guarantee the axle on that Power Wagon is way bent. The truss is to keep the axle straight and prevent bending and works crazy well.

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