Front axle u joint part numbers?
Front axle u joint part numbers?
Looking to replace my u joints. My ball joints are shot so might as well do them all...
I want to use spicer but cant find the right party number..
I want to use spicer but cant find the right party number..
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
ThanksTwinStick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:21 pmCall George at 8 lug.
http://www.8lugtruckgear.com/Drivetrain ... ints-c177/
http://www.8lugtruckgear.com/Drivetrain ... ints-c167/
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
Also found moog 479 may fit... they were available locally so i will try them out... if not I'll get the spicers
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
Why would you possibly run Moog in place of Spicers... Moog parts have zero place being installed on these trucks. Spicer is pretty much the de-facto U-joint option for daily driven trucks. You're probably better off not changing any worn parts on your truck than downgrading anything to Moog.
Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
Moog i got are mexico made... spicers i hear are now china?
That said I'd use spicers if they had them locally..
That said I'd use spicers if they had them locally..
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
What ever you choose is obviously up to you. But, the reason the factory u-joints (& Moogs) go bad so fast, is because they only have a single seal. The Spicer/Dana ones with the "X" in the part # have 3 little ridges (known as a triple lip seal) in the rubber seal, making dirt & water intrusion much less likely & therefore last longer. My factory ones only lasted 18k. That's why I said to contact George @ 8Lug, he knows this stuff like the back of his hand. Tell him what you want & he will hook you up.
Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
Thanks.. i honestly want to order them but i have to install them this week due to some other commitmentsTwinStick wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:24 pmWhat ever you choose is obviously up to you. But, the reason the factory u-joints (& Moogs) go bad so fast, is because they only have a single seal. The Spicer/Dana ones with the "X" in the part # have 3 little ridges (known as a triple lip seal) in the rubber seal, making dirt & water intrusion much less likely & therefore last longer. My factory ones only lasted 18k. That's why I said to contact George @ 8Lug, he knows this stuff like the back of his hand. Tell him what you want & he will hook you up.
U joints are easy enough to swap later on, when they fail ill get the spicers...
I may actually choose to not do them if push comes to shove and wait to redo them in the summer when i have time... they are cheap enough that its not a big deal one way or the other... if it looks like my u joints will last another 4 to 5 mos ill hold off on thr swap...
I have to put in my emf ball joints this week, thus the thought to do them all
Not sound analogy i know, but its my situation
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
You aren’t wasting much time by not doing u-joints at the same time as ball joints. I anti-seize my unit bearings when i take them out and removal is a lot easier. My joints are running on 7 Years with no issues EXCEPT the front driveshaft. The cardan joints in the front shaft let go right at 100,000 miles at grenades the shaft and transfer case. If you’re changing anything preemptively it should be your front driveshaft cardan.
Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
Thanks... i probably will keep them... i wanted something on hand in case it was shot and had to do it as well... nice thing with local parts i can return it with no lossDamageWagon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:21 pmYou aren’t wasting much time by not doing u-joints at the same time as ball joints. I anti-seize my unit bearings when i take them out and removal is a lot easier. My joints are running on 7 Years with no issues EXCEPT the front driveshaft. The cardan joints in the front shaft let go right at 100,000 miles at grenades the shaft and transfer case. If you’re changing anything preemptively it should be your front driveshaft cardan.
I appreciate the comments...
anybody ever drill the spicer caps and put needle or zirk grease fittings?
And do you have a preferred anti seize? So many options out there
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
If you want greasable joints, buy greasable joints.
Anti-seize is pretty standard I think. Anything branded by loctite or permatex is probably fine. If you plan to use it for other things you might get more picky, there’s copper based, high temp, etc. but for just general applications like the unit bearings it will never matter. Just something to keep things from sticking together so bad.
Anti-seize is pretty standard I think. Anything branded by loctite or permatex is probably fine. If you plan to use it for other things you might get more picky, there’s copper based, high temp, etc. but for just general applications like the unit bearings it will never matter. Just something to keep things from sticking together so bad.
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
No can do. The caps are made of hardened kryptonite. Also I don't think theres a grease passage through the cross section of the joint, which make them stronger than a grease type joint. (solid iron vs. hollow)
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
There is no cross-drilling on u-joints without the grease fitting that I have found. So if you want to drill a cap. You will only be greasing that one cap. And you better have some good drill bits too. That's hard metal.
As for ball-joints. If you get ball-joints that have splines on the fit area. The splines tear up the fit area on the axle. So the next time you replace the ball-joints. You may have to replace the axle housing because the ball-joints are now loose in that fit area. I have read about this happening on a couple of different forums.
Couple of different types of anti-seize. The 2 most common. Copper, and nickel. The nickel is for higher heat apps on stainless and other alloys. We used the copper on steam turbines, and the nickel on gas turbines. For auto use. You can use either one.
As for ball-joints. If you get ball-joints that have splines on the fit area. The splines tear up the fit area on the axle. So the next time you replace the ball-joints. You may have to replace the axle housing because the ball-joints are now loose in that fit area. I have read about this happening on a couple of different forums.
Couple of different types of anti-seize. The 2 most common. Copper, and nickel. The nickel is for higher heat apps on stainless and other alloys. We used the copper on steam turbines, and the nickel on gas turbines. For auto use. You can use either one.
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
Thanks.. good to know... one of the reasons i bought emf ball joints.. they are not splinedRustyPW wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:43 amThere is no cross-drilling on u-joints without the grease fitting that I have found. So if you want to drill a cap. You will only be greasing that one cap. And you better have some good drill bits too. That's hard metal.
As for ball-joints. If you get ball-joints that have splines on the fit area. The splines tear up the fit area on the axle. So the next time you replace the ball-joints. You may have to replace the axle housing because the ball-joints are now loose in that fit area. I have read about this happening on a couple of different forums.
Couple of different types of anti-seize. The 2 most common. Copper, and nickel. The nickel is for higher heat apps on stainless and other alloys. We used the copper on steam turbines, and the nickel on gas turbines. For auto use. You can use either one.
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Re: Front axle u joint part numbers?
For those curious..
Moog 479 will fit and so will spicer 5-3212x
Moog 479 will fit and so will spicer 5-3212x
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Black 17 PW wheels with Falken AT3W 315/70/17
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