What Thickness of sliders?

FordyceCreekTrail · Post by **FordyceCreekTrail** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:36 am

.120 or .188 which did you go?

Post by **DamageWagon** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:42 am

It depends on the design and use of the slider. For a white knuckle style where the kick out is normally the section that's hit, you might want .188 if you use it a lot. Otherwise .120 is fine. Most guys in Moab ran .120 and nobody had really bad damage. MikeKey smashed a few sections in with .120 wall but they're still good to go.

If the kickout angles up like the ones I made, I'd stick with .120 since it's the main tube that takes the hit.

gtomike60 · Post by **gtomike60** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:41 pm

I got White Knuckle with .188" tubing.
Took a side hit from an Acura TL with only scratches in the Line-X

FirerescuePW · Post by **FirerescuePW** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:13 pm

I went with .188 wall.

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13powerwagon · Post by **13powerwagon** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:10 pm

.188 here as well.

olyelr · Post by **olyelr** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:32 pm

.188 here also.

Rodeoflyer · Post by **Rodeoflyer** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:08 pm

gtomike60 wrote:I got White Knuckle with .188" tubing.
Took a side hit from an Acura TL with only scratches in the Line-X

Best reason to go .188

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Rodeoflyer · Post by **Rodeoflyer** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:08 pm

gtomike60 wrote:I got White Knuckle with .188" tubing.
Took a side hit from an Acura TL with only scratches in the Line-X

Best reason to go .188

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TankerZak · Post by **TankerZak** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:55 pm

.188 also

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Bill2014 · Post by **Bill2014** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:57 am

.188"
only has a small increase in weight - and small increase in price - but higher resistance to denting and bending...

ramv · Post by **ramv** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:36 am

The thicker wall has virtually no resistance to bending, but is more resistance to denting. (resistance to bending is primarily diameter)

I went 0.120" I have 2" 0.120" on my 2nd gen for both sliders and roll cage and it's been rolled multiple times and rocker protection abused as much as possible.

Either is fine, and neither is likely noticeable. If it was a driveline, I would go 0.188" since dents throw the balance off. Who cares if you have a dent or two in the rocker protection.

Post by **Pit Slave** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:49 am

I have the factory spec. .250"

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

Bill2014 · Post by **Bill2014** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:40 pm

ramv wrote:The thicker wall has virtually no resistance to bending, but is more resistance to denting. (resistance to bending is primarily diameter)

I went 0.120" I have 2" 0.120" on my 2nd gen for both sliders and roll cage and it's been rolled multiple times and rocker protection abused as much as possible.

Either is fine, and neither is likely noticeable. If it was a driveline, I would go 0.188" since dents throw the balance off. Who cares if you have a dent or two in the rocker protection.

Did you do the calculations for the bending of the sliders?

The bending stress will be inversely proportional to the "I" value for the cross section of pipe (Just like beams).
"I" = pi()/64 (OD**4 - ID**4)
and you can drop the pi()/64 since we are only interested in relative bending strength
The White Knuckle outer rub rails are 1-3/4" OD. Calculating the ratio for bending stress/strength:

((1.75)**4 - (1.374)**4) for the .188 DOM
------------------------------------------------
((1.75)**4 - (1.51)**4) for the .122 DOM

So the .188" sliders are 39.1% stronger in bending than the .120" sliders.

The denting is much harder to calculate...

FordyceCreekTrail · Post by **FordyceCreekTrail** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:44 pm

How long has it been taking to get White Knuckles? Just trying to figure out when to pull the trigger

YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:09 pm

FordyceCreekTrail wrote:How long has it been taking to get White Knuckles? Just trying to figure out when to pull the trigger

Their estimates are spot on for the most part. Sometimes sooner.

olyelr · Post by **olyelr** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:07 pm

FordyceCreekTrail wrote:How long has it been taking to get White Knuckles? Just trying to figure out when to pull the trigger

Is it ever too soon?

Shaved Ice · Post by **Shaved Ice** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:21 pm

Mine took about six weeks total. Then again, they had a problem with their powder coater and they had to ship all the way to eastern Tennessee.

FordyceCreekTrail · Post by **FordyceCreekTrail** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:12 pm

olyelr wrote:
FordyceCreekTrail wrote:How long has it been taking to get White Knuckles? Just trying to figure out when to pull the trigger
Is it ever too soon?

Its a 1000 bones.....

olyelr · Post by **olyelr** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:14 am

FordyceCreekTrail wrote:
olyelr wrote:
FordyceCreekTrail wrote:How long has it been taking to get White Knuckles? Just trying to figure out when to pull the trigger
Is it ever too soon?
Its a 1000 bones.....

$1000?! For some reason I remember more like $1400 (with shipping).

Shaved Ice · Post by **Shaved Ice** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:17 am

It is $1040 for the thicker version before you even add powdercoat and shipping:http://www.white-knuckleoffroad.com/ram2014-2017.html

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