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Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by MrG » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:00 pm

I'm in the market for a new pickup, and have been considering a Power Wagon; I have also seen the Cummings 4x4 off-road.
I would like to stress that I have absolutely NO NEED whatsoever for it. I seldomly tow more than a K lbs, and only go to father in laws ranch twice per week (sandy, 4x4 preferred but not required). I drive under 12K miles a year (well in my vehicle at least, wife's RAV4 takes us many more)

What are the pros and cons to a PW as a daily driver (about 24 mile round trip to work)?

I know I came to the right place to ask. :-)

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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by DamageWagon » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:11 pm

Neither? Tradesman 6.4 an option? Better mileage, skip the $8,000 cost either way if you're not going to use either. Or get a 1500

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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by MikeKey » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:44 pm

Sounds like you should just go buy a Ram Rebel, get the nice 8 speed. The new trucks ride like cars. Really no complaint on ride or quality. I've driven cross country more than once in mine. Love it. It's my daily driver. But you don't sound like you need a PW.

There are a lot of things the PW has over the 4x4 Offroad package, but if it doesn't matter, why look at it at all?
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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by Reloaderguy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:45 pm

Ford Raptor.
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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by Low_Sky » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:59 pm

If you don't know why you need one, you don't need one. It's a whole lot extra to spend on stuff you don't need.


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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by MrG » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:02 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:Ford Raptor.
Raptors don't really have the markdowns that power wagons do. I've looked at Rebels, I'm also considering the along with FX4 (the horrors)

I just live in a small town where I would be the only person with a PW. I've only seen 2 rebels and 2 raptors around here.

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Post by MrG » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:12 pm

Y'all are making me feel guilty for wanting something I don't need.

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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by coder » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:17 pm

Hello MrG, welcome,

Buying a truck is all about balancing the trade-off's and getting you what works best for you. My 07 PW has been my daily driver for over 10 years and I also have about a 24 mile daily commute, I still smile every time I get in it. Here's my list of pros/cons.

Procs:
- Best off road suspension for a 3/4 ton truck on the market.
- Marketing leading off road traction enhancers front/rear lockers, disconnecting sway-bar, 12,00 lbs Warn winch.
- Solid 6.4 Hemi engine.

Cons:
- Softer off road centric suspension means reduced payload capacity when compared to a standard 2500
- 2500 gas engine's are always thirsty
- Limited dealer inventory means you may have to order one to get what you want.
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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by FirerescuePW » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:19 pm

When you say "I would like to stress that I have absolutely NO NEED whatsoever for it. ", do you mean the Cummins, the PW, or a truck? I need to know this before I can answer.

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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by MrG » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:02 pm

FirerescuePW wrote:When you say "I would like to stress that I have absolutely NO NEED whatsoever for it. ", do you mean the Cummins, the PW, or a truck? I need to know this before I can answer.

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A power wagon. I need a truck, and need it to be 4x4 and prefer a medium length bed (I used to have a 2004 F150 Crew Cab and really disliked the small bed)

I'm 31 years old Male 6'2" 225 lbs, with an 6 month baby. I don't foresee the height being a problem.

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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by ramv » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:44 pm

I use mine for a 60 mile daily RT commute,. Amazed with the milage, way better than my 8.1 Chevy 3/4 ton.

I tow 12k lb occasionally through the mountains

I tow 6k lb often through the mountains.

I haul my dirt bikes.

I 4wheel, I tow while four wheeling. I have winched broken trees out of my way, I have dragged my truck up waterfalls and through mud, over rocks with the winch.

For me the PW is perfect. I would not own a different truck. Only other consideration would be an F350 biut I would add a winch and a front locker. The Raptor would work for me most of the time, but towing wouldn't.

If I simplified my hobbies, I would also consider a Canyon ZR2.

If I didn't need/use lockers and winches, I would get an F150
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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by Rodeoflyer » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:37 am

Reloaderguy wrote:Ford Raptor.
The guys on raptorforum probably know what cryptocroidism means.


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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:15 am

In think the Power Wagon may be a lot like the Raptor. There are as many Raptors being traded in as new ones are sold because it was not what the buyer needed. These are cool trucks, but not for everyone. I ordered a PW because I live off road and because I am a hardcore four wheeler. I have an old Montero trail rig, TRD PRO 4 Runner and an old 4x4 Titan. I would not be caught dead behind the wheel of a Rav 4.(sorry) Been known to strike out on serious trails in every vehicle I have ever owned....Yes, i will use mine for work as well but consider how much I go wheeling. And the roads I live on and all the Thelma and Louise drivers around me that need winched. Ask yourself will you use the capabilities? Have you ever used the rear locker in your 4x4? Have you used a winch a 100+ times? Have you done trails where 2 lockers were required? If not dual lockers, winch and disconnects are way over kill. If you live East of the Mississippi I really doubt you need it. You can find something cheaper with better gas mileage. However if you want to get twisted up in some boulder fields and rock that baby to sleep eventually the PW may be the ticket.
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Post by Rodeoflyer » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:45 am

I don't think you can touch a 2017 raptor for less than $70k. People say you can, maybe I didn't look hard enough. You can purchase a brand new powerwagon tradesman for $45k (I paid $48k for a fully loaded SLT with all the electronic goodies) and go full Thuren or Carli suspension with springs, king shocks, trackbars front and rear, bumpstops, the whole shebang. You'd be into it for ~$55k, heck even throw in a nice new set of 8.5-9'' width wheels for that.

I have something I don't really 'need' either but man do I love it and would do it all over again if someone stole it [emoji1].

I'm not the guy to talk you out of it.

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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by 13powerwagon » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:00 am

Ill give you some cons to being a PW owner.
It causes you to spend hours on the internet looking at stuff to buy for it.
You then spend money on said parts that you spent hours looking at.
You turn to this site for help but other PW owners are enablers and will only further your addiction.
In the end you spend all your money on it and your woman is pissed, unless she is a good one and has the same addiction, in which case you will go broke because there is no voice of reason.
But it's totally worth it to own the most manly work of off road majesticness you can buy from the factory.

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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:13 am

My 2012 is my daily driver, and by most people's standards a pavement princess. I bought the Power Wagon because I wanted a truck that could do everything I wanted and more. I don't use the lockers a lot, but when I do they are worth every penny. I've only tinkered with the disconnecting sway bar, but I've never needed it. I've never used the winch, but it's nice to know it's there if things go south. The big plus to the Power Wagon is the ride quality over a standard 3/4 truck. With the softer springs the ride quality is close to a 1500. My truck tows the family boat with no issue (21 foot pontoon boat), and I've helped my brother get hay when he needed a second truck (roughly 10,000lbs behind the truck). My daily commute is around 14 miles round trip, so fuel economy isn't a concern to me (my truck just turned 45,000 miles about a month ago).

In short- I'd much rather have too much truck than not enough truck. I say go drive one and give it an honest test drive. You might find it's exactly what you need, or you may find it's not what you're really after.
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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by Ramajama » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:35 pm

MrG wrote:Y'all are making me feel guilty for wanting something I don't need.
Here's the deal. This is a highly subjective topic. Just get whatever YOU WANT within your budget (which includes cost of ownership). Doesn't matter what anyone says on here. Its your money, your life, your wants. Whenever you have the means to afford it, needs are always secondary to wants IMHO.
Ive driven half ton 4x4 trucks for the past 25 years. They have all exceeded my needs but thats what I have wanted. Now I want a Power Wagon, dont need it, way overkill, it'll be my daily driver and there's plenty of negatives in my choice as compared to a half ton and I'm quite aware of them. But I got a whole bag-o-F's and Im not giving any. :rockon:

So go drive those trucks and get whatever trips that trigger of yours and enjoy. BUT, Youre smart enough to figure out the negatives and if the negatives give you enough pause, sometimes your head will override heart. :D

Ive learned that this site is geared toward the hard core PW enthusiasts who really consider this truck as a functional tool for them as enthusiasts. Ive got the gist that they dont generally like to see a PW underutilized. :) So if you do get a PW and decide to get immersed in it and maybe start using it more to its capabilities then come back here and get edumakated.

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Post by MSCH2112 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:38 pm

from the want specs you provided....you don't need a 3/4 ton, don't need an 8k cummins, and don't need an off-road package.

perhaps your better off in a 1/2 ton 4wd. if you really want a diesel, get the eco diesel.

the 2500 cummins 4x4 offroad package i now own is NOT friendly off-road. but it's working out great for me and my requirements. and i've owned (2) pw's!

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Post by Retired BLM Rig » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:47 pm

Pro: It'll make your weenie look bigger. :rockon:
Con: My wife says it's not working. :doh:
Maybe I should get a lift kit and 37's!!! :idea:

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Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:59 am

Retired BLM Rig wrote:Pro: It'll make your weenie look bigger. :rockon:
Con: My wife says it's not working. :doh:
Maybe I should get a lift kit and 37's!!! :idea:
Don't forget the 12" drop hitch with a pair of nuts hanging down. Woman dig that I hear. :secret:
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Post by MrG » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:09 am

Retired BLM Rig wrote:Pro: It'll make your weenie look bigger. :rockon:
Con: My wife says it's not working. :doh:
Maybe I should get a lift kit and 37's!!! :idea:
MSCH2112 wrote:from the want specs you provided....you don't need a 3/4 ton, don't need an 8k cummins, and don't need an off-road package.

perhaps your better off in a 1/2 ton 4wd. if you really want a diesel, get the eco diesel.

the 2500 cummins 4x4 offroad package i now own is NOT friendly off-road. but it's working out great for me and my requirements. and i've owned (2) pw's!

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I forgot to mention I live in Texas. That should settle the "you don't need a 3/4 ton" argument.
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MrG wrote:Y'all are making me feel guilty for wanting something I don't need.
Here's the deal. This is a highly subjective topic. Just get whatever YOU WANT within your budget (which includes cost of ownership). Doesn't matter what anyone says on here. Its your money, your life, your wants. Whenever you have the means to afford it, needs are always secondary to wants IMHO.
Ive driven half ton 4x4 trucks for the past 25 years. They have all exceeded my needs but thats what I have wanted. Now I want a Power Wagon, dont need it, way overkill, it'll be my daily driver and there's plenty of negatives in my choice as compared to a half ton and I'm quite aware of them. But I got a whole bag-o-F's and Im not giving any. :rockon:

So go drive those trucks and get whatever trips that trigger of yours and enjoy. BUT, Youre smart enough to figure out the negatives and if the negatives give you enough pause, sometimes your head will override heart. :D

Ive learned that this site is geared toward the hard core PW enthusiasts who really consider this truck as a functional tool for them as enthusiasts. Ive got the gist that they dont generally like to see a PW underutilized. :) So if you do get a PW and decide to get immersed in it and maybe start using it more to its capabilities then come back here and get edumakated.

Good luck!
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Re: Need to be talked into, or out of purchasing a new PW

Post by Littlehouse » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:28 am

Towing under $1k lbs? Why do you even need a full size? I'd get the Colorado ZR2 if I were you. Almost as cool as a Power Wagon, and a better DD.

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Post by rkgzx9leftcoast » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:43 am

The way I figure it ...if you want it get it... you only live once. I started out by looking at a Cummins Ram, because my boss got a new Dually and I drove it and was like wow this thing has some balls.... for a heavy truck. I started seeing the PW and knew I had a lot of off road trails near me in AZ .... I figured it was the last toy I was gonna buy for myself... who knows , but I wanted it so I got it. Then the sickness took over and like most on here the ordering begins... so get ready for that.

I can tell you that I have used the lockers more that once on the hills out here , and used the Winch to pull out a stuck Durango on the trail... so you never know what you may need... its nice to have if you need it.

I, like you, dont drive very far to work, so gas mileage wasnt a factor

I say have at it !!!
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Post by olyelr » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:28 pm

Littlehouse wrote:Towing under $1k lbs? Why do you even need a full size? I'd get the Colorado ZR2 if I were you. Almost as cool as a Power Wagon, and a better DD.
Well, that might be YOUR opinion...
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Post by RustyPW » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:22 pm

If you live East of the Mississippi I really doubt you need it...............cough...............cough..........bull shit............... :poke:

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