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Chinese Power Wagon

Post by vanished » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:22 am

Just the title of the article alone makes me angry... :angry:

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/08/14/fca ... utomakers/

"FCA representatives have recently traveled to China to meet with Great Wall Motors, while Chinese representatives were seen at FCA corporate headquarters in Auburn Hills, Mich"

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Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:26 am

Does that mean the 2019 model will start at 25,000.00?
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Post by TwinStick » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:44 pm

Disposable vehicles, who'd a thought !!! I can see it now:

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G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Post by RustyPW » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:00 pm

Mopar could come full circle. USA, Germans, Italians, Chinese, USA after the Chinese bubble breaks.
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Post by Reloaderguy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:50 pm

Powrer Ragon
Best Year Power Wagon

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Post by TwinStick » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:59 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:Powrer Ragon
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
In WNY State. 2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls an 18' 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Post by flattire » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:17 pm

Might be something good if they did. Maybe the Chinese "knock off" parts they make would actually fit without modification.

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Post by flattire » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:21 pm

Would the powrer ragon come standard with a wrinch ?

Cup holders or square slot for Chinese takeout?

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Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:20 pm

Seriously thought what will Chinese Unit Bearings, Ball Joints and steering boxes be like ?
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Post by GunniPWguy » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:19 pm

TwinStick wrote:
Reloaderguy wrote:Powrer Ragon
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Chinese Power Wagon

Post by waldo » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:33 am

Sum Ting Wong.
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Post by Colibri » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:35 am

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Post by olyelr » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:19 pm

Shénshèng de gǒu shǐ


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Post by Pit Slave » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:46 am

http://jalopnik.com/itd-be-monumentally ... 212088/amp

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Post by BoldAdventure » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:12 pm

You know what's interesting about that history is that Jeep has been owned by foreigners twice now. First by the French and now the Italians.

I mentioned this on the FB group "The current admin isn't going to allow a Chinese buy out. They already started saying it would transfer US technology interest and then treated it could be a Natsec interest, lol. A stretch, but the current admin can blow up a deal with words."

I don't see the deal happening. Also the Chinese were mostly interested in just buying Jeep. And like stated on Jalopnik, it would be the stupidest of moves and sink Chrysler to just unload Jeep all by it's lonesome.

But I also don't think the current admin would allow the sale to go through.
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Post by Pit Slave » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:16 pm

Honestly, if there was a way for me to purchase Chrysler, either through loans, grants, or a combination of both, I would. But there would have to be a certain stipulation and conditions I have to have before I would make it happen. One of the most important is that I don't take over any pensions or retirement obligations that were made by the previous owners/ asset holders. Any new pensions or retirement obligations would have to be sustainable and dependent on the success of the corporation. At no point would there be a reason, or allowance to pull a loan for payment to the aforementioned. Basically, put a floor and cap on the funding. This would provide a much better and more secure financial stability for the corporation. Also a somewhat controversial way to "reset" the structure, yet effective, is to only transfer the ownership of the company, assets, and property, but exclude all the employees. They would be, laid off and rehired under the new company ownership rulings and follow the more sustainable terms. Now whatever the terms that they had in the "old company" they get to keep, however will not be the burden of the "new company" and it's owners. This scenario is obvious and we know what would become of the "old company" terms and obligations.

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Post by RustyPW » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:23 am

MikeKey wrote:You know what's interesting about that history is that Jeep has been owned by foreigners twice now. First by the French and now the Italians.

I mentioned this on the FB group "The current admin isn't going to allow a Chinese buy out. They already started saying it would transfer US technology interest and then treated it could be a Natsec interest, lol. A stretch, but the current admin can blow up a deal with words."

I don't see the deal happening. Also the Chinese were mostly interested in just buying Jeep. And like stated on Jalopnik, it would be the stupidest of moves and sink Chrysler to just unload Jeep all by it's lonesome.

But I also don't think the current admin would allow the sale to go through.
You forgot the Germans.
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Re: Chinese Power Wagon

Post by RustyPW » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:26 am

Pit Slave wrote:Honestly, if there was a way for me to purchase Chrysler, either through loans, grants, or a combination of both, I would. But there would have to be a certain stipulation and conditions I have to have before I would make it happen. One of the most important is that I don't take over any pensions or retirement obligations that were made by the previous owners/ asset holders. Any new pensions or retirement obligations would have to be sustainable and dependent on the success of the corporation. At no point would there be a reason, or allowance to pull a loan for payment to the aforementioned. Basically, put a floor and cap on the funding. This would provide a much better and more secure financial stability for the corporation. Also a somewhat controversial way to "reset" the structure, yet effective, is to only transfer the ownership of the company, assets, and property, but exclude all the employees. They would be, laid off and rehired under the new company ownership rulings and follow the more sustainable terms. Now whatever the terms that they had in the "old company" they get to keep, however will not be the burden of the "new company" and it's owners. This scenario is obvious and we know what would become of the "old company" terms and obligations.

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Post by BoldAdventure » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:39 am

RustyPW wrote: You forgot the Germans.
Oh that's right, the corporate raiders. Daimler's ownership of Chrysler was by far it's worst foreign ownership. At least we got the PW out of that.
RustyPW wrote: This ain't going to happen. Cause in the union contract. Sell the company, employees go with it, along with the contract. You would have to break the contract.
Ah, the auto unions are a major headache for American auto companies. But then again, they fell for all that crap. Promising pensions, healthcare, etc for life.
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Post by Pit Slave » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:05 pm

"Jalopnik: Jeep Is The Only Way Fiat Chrysler Can Take Over The World."
http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwi7D89zk

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