Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by aheiser » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:38 am

Thanks everyone! I actually ended up going with the RTs. Having them installed later today. I know they may still be squirrely on the ice/blacktop but they seem well liked and a good balance. I figure I'll give them a try this winter and will run a more AT-like tire next year if these end up being too scary. And then some day, if I can devote this truck to offroad, I'll try the MTs in a 37 :D
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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by TankerZak » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:30 am

I was doing 55 on solid ice in my PW this last year. You'll be just fine. I couldn't make it slide when slamming on the brakes. Just make sure you get them sipped and run them at 45 PSI front 35 PSI rear. Unless you have RAMboxes and keep a buncha stuff in the RAMboxes. I keep chains, which stuff, 5 gal gas can, etc. So my rear is a little heavier. If your doing that then only do a 5 PSI delta. I run 45/40 front/rear. Only run 60/65 PSI front/rear when towing. Enjoy!

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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by Shaved Ice » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:01 pm

Not to hijack, but can you send info on your 5 gallon gas can that fits in the Rambox?
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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by DamageWagon » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:28 pm

Congrats on the purchase! A little reinforcement for you, one of the go-fast cummins guys just posted this Image

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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by aheiser » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:43 pm

Wow that's crazy! I have no doubt these tires will be tough. Thanks Tankerzak for the input. I've run the BFGs at pretty much standard pressure or occasionally on light load. Guess it will be time to finally have my tpms thresholds adjusted and not run these super heavy/rigid tires at such high pressure.
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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by TankerZak » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:31 pm

Shaved Ice wrote:Not to hijack, but can you send info on your 5 gallon gas can that fits in the Rambox?
Sorry, that was poor typing on my part. It goes under my tonneau cover between the tailgate and the bed divider that comes with the truck and then I bungie it to the hoop by the tailgate. It's not IN the Rambox. Sorry, I was trying to make a point about weight in the bed. I do use the metal cans that fit upright under a tonneau cover though. It's rather slick. I can fit 4 across the back in the gap between the tailgate and the bed divider when it's in the last notch.

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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by TankerZak » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:33 pm

Shaved Ice wrote:Not to hijack, but can you send info on your 5 gallon gas can that fits in the Rambox?
Sorry, that was poor typing on my part. It goes under my tonneau cover between the tailgate and the bed divider that comes with the truck and then I bungie it to the hoop by the tailgate. It's not IN the Rambox. Sorry, I was trying to make a point about weight in the bed. I do use the metal cans that fit upright under a tonneau cover though. It's rather slick. I can fit 4 across the back in the gap between the tailgate and the bed divider when it's in the last notch.

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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by Colibri » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:33 pm

I've seen the sceptre military fuel cans fit in ramboxes. Unfortunately they're no longer legal for civilians because of the EPA. You can still find them but they're spendy
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Post by MikeKey » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:26 pm

Colibri wrote:I've seen the sceptre military fuel cans fit in ramboxes. Unfortunately they're no longer legal for civilians because of the EPA. You can still find them but they're spendy
Where did you get that bit of incorrect information? :popcorn: Maybe in CommieFornia. Not the rest of the US.
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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by Colibri » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:41 pm

I would love to be wrong, if you could direct me to a reputable business who sells them I'd be appreciative. As far as I know you can either

1. buy them in Canada and sneak them over
2. Buy them off eBay for more than they're worth
3. Get them beat up used from a surplus store if you can find them
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Post by yellowranger1 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:06 pm

Can't even get them shipped to CA (for our own safety obviously) I found one place a while back that carried them and when I called they confirmed they couldn't get any new ones shipped here.

I picked up 4 used OD green 20L scepters from a guy of expo portal though. I just need to spend some time on them cleaning up the overspray they have on them.

Even the blue square fuel jugs I use now aren't legal, but I refuse to waste half my fuel on the ground by using a BS "carb compliant eco can."

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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by nts007 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:03 pm

When I come to Moab I'm sure I can sneak a few dozen of those fuel cans for ya guys
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Post by MikeKey » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:38 am

https://www.amazon.com/Scepter-05552-Mi ... B00L1KY1KI

I have NATO steel cans anyways. Hold up well.
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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by Colibri » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:18 am

$116 dollars for a gas can is crazy, the only reason they're that price is because sceptre no longer does civilian sales in the us for the MFC. That amazon seller is price gouging his last 4 new old stock cans, but no authorized distributor can ship a new MFC to ANY us address.

I have a few MFC's and some NATO Jerry cans. I like them both.
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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by TankerZak » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:57 pm

I really like the cans from my link. I like the old Jerry cans the best but the great thing about these is they fit under a locked tonneau while upright. I was going to buy some old Jerry's but I focused on height so I could lock everything up. Cooler fits with top locked as well. Tonneau rolls easy for hauling but so nice keeping everything locked and hidden and tools and gear in the Ramboxes.

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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by Colibri » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:15 pm

I'm a little jealous of the ramboxes.
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Sharadon stage 2 545rfe with 3000 stall edge converter
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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by MikeKey » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:34 am

TankerZak wrote:I really like the cans from my link. I like the old Jerry cans the best but the great thing about these is they fit under a locked tonneau while upright. I was going to buy some old Jerry's but I focused on height so I could lock everything up. Cooler fits with top locked as well. Tonneau rolls easy for hauling but so nice keeping everything locked and hidden and tools and gear in the Ramboxes.
Yup that's what I do. I have the old metal NATO 5.5 Gallon Jerry cans, bought them on Cheaperthandirt.com way back when. 4 of them, all fit under the tonneau.
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Re: Toyo RTs vs MTs in snow/ice

Post by TankerZak » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:12 am

MikeKey wrote:
TankerZak wrote:I really like the cans from my link. I like the old Jerry cans the best but the great thing about these is they fit under a locked tonneau while upright. I was going to buy some old Jerry's but I focused on height so I could lock everything up. Cooler fits with top locked as well. Tonneau rolls easy for hauling but so nice keeping everything locked and hidden and tools and gear in the Ramboxes.
Yup that's what I do. I have the old metal NATO 5.5 Gallon Jerry cans, bought them on Cheaperthandirt.com way back when. 4 of them, all fit under the tonneau.
Stand up? How tall are they? I need to go measure my inner height of my tonneau again.

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