So everyone knows how well a bull bar is fastened.....

nts007 · Post by **nts007** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:14 pm

Moderately risky attaching a hi lift to a bull bar. More risky attaching it to a Chevy. But totally worthless because when a curb can hang you up......not to mention exactly where does he plan to lift from.... just started laughing when I seen this

nts007 · Post by **nts007** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:22 pm

Best part he's In a no parking zone. Maybe he's stuck on the speed bump

YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:32 pm

Perfect example of poser trying to look the part.

agpilot · Post by **agpilot** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:00 pm

But it's a Z71 OFFROAD! He's going OFF ROAD!

Off the road into a ditch more like...

RustyPW · Post by **RustyPW** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:02 pm

Mall Crawler Alert! He even got the fake dust on it.

YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:13 pm

Well he is Canadian

nts007 · Post by **nts007** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:23 pm

Shots fired!!

RustyPW · Post by **RustyPW** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:33 pm

MikeKey wrote:Well he is Canadian

Must be that Canuckistan dust.

Rodeoflyer · Post by **Rodeoflyer** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:47 pm

They do some things north of our border a lot like south of our border it appears.

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Will · Post by **Will** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:15 pm

With a hula dancer on the dash. Bet she doesn't move much. Haha

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verdesardog · Post by **verdesardog** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:19 pm

Is that a hula dancer or a plastic jesus???

Will · Post by **Will** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:28 pm

The darker one to the right.

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Chromolykid · Post by **Chromolykid** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:50 pm

It has an LED bar. It's a trophy truck.

TankerZak · Post by **TankerZak** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:22 pm

Chromolykid wrote:It has an LED bar. It's a trophy truck.

I still don't get the LED light bar. I've never been in my truck thinking, "i wish my headlights put out more light." And I've skinned a deer in my headlights before.

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YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:43 am

TankerZak wrote:
Chromolykid wrote:It has an LED bar. It's a trophy truck.
I still don't get the LED light bar. I've never been in my truck thinking, "i wish my headlights put out more light." And I've skinned a deer in my headlights before.

Ignorance is bliss. Come out west. Or have bad eyes.

That being said, I found that when I upgraded the lights with HID's and LED highs, that they put out as much power as the light bar. It wasn't adding much more to the equation.

nts007 · Post by **nts007** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:11 am

I found the light bars don't give any real distance. Just trick you into believing they are so good because of the total brightness. The light force throw light to where you need it. Instead of just shining light around the place.

Colibri · Post by **Colibri** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:32 am

To be fair, there are varying degrees of quality and light output among the different light bars. Most aren't any good at all and the few that are worth a damn are expensive and outperformed by quality hid lights with large reflectors. They're good from a packaging standpoint, I simply don't have room for bigger lights on the front of my truck so I went with a Baja designs bar and fogs, the spot optics's on that will throw almost as far as hid and with a good color temperature. An excellent compromise lighting option. Windshield mounted bars are worse than no lights though. They glare of the hood and windshield and destroy your ability to see anything.

Post by **Pit Slave** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:34 am

This is the challenge when designing a light. There are so many variables and variations that come into play. Spot, flood, and combinations of the two sound simple and it is. However, being able to control where and how much takes a bit of work to figure out. I believe it will come down to how efficient and effective it is as well as the type and color temp the light produces.

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:37 am

Yea, you have to drop some serious cash on a light bar with good optics like Baja Designs in order to get a really good output that will outperform your headlights.

That being said, I've noticed the smaller units add a lot of additional makeup. When I was running the D2's they were a big improvement over the fog lights.

In the new bumper, I plan on running Baja Designs Squadron Pro's. I'm not 100% sure if I will just mount my existing light bar for the heck of it, or upgrade to something else. I think I'll run the Squadrons and then evaluate my needs.

A lot of guys just buy stuff to buy stuff.

Post by **Pit Slave** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:41 am

So in my own opinion and sofar, the opinions of others, there will soon be something better than what you just mentioned.

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:40 pm

Vaporware can't be better until it's actually in product and for sale.

If it's the same ones DamageWagon was talking about, they won't be the right size. I need 4 inch rounds.

Chromolykid · Post by **Chromolykid** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:06 pm

Colibri wrote:Windshield mounted bars are worse than no lights though. They glare of the hood and windshield and destroy your ability to see anything.

Bingo!

9.9/10 people on the road with roof-mounted LED bars got a smoking deal on eBay because "They're all the same" and a $100 bar is definitely as good as an $1,800 bar...

I've been racing with the best LED bars in the business for years and a roof-mounted bar is ONLY useful in perfectly clean air. Any dust at all and you're blinding yourself. They also mount above your eye level so they cast no shadows on obstacles providing the driver no aid in determining the height of rocks, the depth of holes, etc. And for what it's worth, the latest Baja Designs bars can be comfortably used at speeds over 100mph. You get what you pay for.

I use a few bumper mounted BD lights MUCH more often than the 40" BD bar on the roof. Furiosa will get a set of Squadrons soon, 2 corners and 2 spots in the fog pockets. If I find a good option for LED bulbs in the headlights, I'll do that first though.

Anyways, back to that "off-road" Z71. Reminds me of the meme I made that spread on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/BLl_t26A277/

Colibri · Post by **Colibri** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:12 pm

Pit Slave wrote:So in my own opinion and sofar, the opinions of others, there will soon be something better than what you just mentioned.

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

Waiting patiently to give you monies sir!!!

Colibri · Post by **Colibri** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:15 pm

Chromolykid wrote:
Colibri wrote:Windshield mounted bars are worse than no lights though. They glare of the hood and windshield and destroy your ability to see anything.
Bingo!

9.9/10 people on the road with roof-mounted LED bars got a smoking deal on eBay because "They're all the same" and a $100 bar is definitely as good as an $1,800 bar...

I've been racing with the best LED bars in the business for years and a roof-mounted bar is ONLY useful in perfectly clean air. Any dust at all and you're blinding yourself. They also mount above your eye level so they cast no shadows on obstacles providing the driver no aid in determining the height of rocks, the depth of holes, etc. And for what it's worth, the latest Baja Designs bars can be comfortably used at speeds over 100mph. You get what you pay for.

I use a few bumper mounted BD lights MUCH more often than the 40" BD bar on the roof. Furiosa will get a set of Squadrons soon, 2 corners and 2 spots in the fog pockets. If I find a good option for LED bulbs in the headlights, I'll do that first, though.

Damn straight! Listen to the voice of experience here ^^^^, there's a reason all my auxiliary lights are at headlight level or below. Can't go fast without seeing where you're going AND having shadow to allow for depth perception when reading terrain.

nts007 · Post by **nts007** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:27 pm

The law here actually states that all auxiliary lights with the capability to be engaged whilst driving on public roadways must be mounted below the headlights. Anything over is to be disabled or covered. But I guess a switch is considered disabled. Regardless it's illegal for use on a public roadway. And it's useless on the highway as it destroys your night vision ability by creating a huge wash of bright light in the foreground. And nothing 1000' and farther. Safer to hold a flashlight pointed at your face while driving

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