BD throttle sensitivity booster

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BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by jswider » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:05 pm

Anyone here ever use this thing or have any experience with it?

BD diesel 1057732 throttle position sensitivity booster

Saw it in the 4wheel off road magazine today. It remaps the throttle sensitivity and is all plug and play. Can be set to stock, 50% and 100% increase sensitivity. Should theoretically get rid of the horrible lag in the pedal for driving around town and on Highway, can always turn it back to stock when in 4 low. Wonder if it really works, but I'm sure a tuner can remap them as well....
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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by Shaved Ice » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:02 pm

Previously, I read a lot of reviews for this on the Cummins forums. They all seem to like it, but it does not get rid of lag.

A tuner does the same thing but this TSB can be removed without leaving a electronic footprint in case you need to go in for warranty work.
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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by DamageWagon » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:12 pm

That's expensive for just compensating for how you move your foot. Just my thought


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Post by Juday » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:13 pm

The Bully Dog GT does this also. IMO, just buy a tuner. I've turned my throttle sensitivity to the max, as I found I like that setting the best.
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Post by DamageWagon » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:25 pm

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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by Ducky's Dad » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:14 pm

Lag? What lag? I don't have no stinkin' lag. But mine is an '05, so I don't have as much electronic crap as do the newer trucks.

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Post by Shaved Ice » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:23 pm

I have not experienced any lag in my 2017 Power Wagon. I am coming from a 2014 Cummins that had HORRIBLE lag, so I may not notice as much as the next guy. I previously owned a 2007 Power Wagon and don't notice any difference in throttle response. I might get a TSB instead of a tuner just because I have a lifetime bumper-to-bumper and don't want the electronic footprint of a tuner if I have to go in for warranty work.
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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by TommyG » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:55 am

The lag in my 2012 is terrible. Going up an on ramp you press and press and press. Rather than accelerating it just stays the same when you reach a certain point it down shifts two gears and just screams. If it would just add throttle at the same rate you are pushing the pedal it would not need to shift at all. Probably one of my biggest gripes with the truck.
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Post by nts007 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:15 am

Torque management it's called in the diesels. Almost every programmer does this because the drive by wire just doesn't feel or work right. The booster basically forces the drive by wire to act almost like a cable system. Worth it if you don't want a tuner but a tuner is more valuable
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Post by DamageWagon » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:51 am

TommyG wrote:The lag in my 2012 is terrible. Going up an on ramp you press and press and press. Rather than accelerating it just stays the same when you reach a certain point it down shifts two gears and just screams. If it would just add throttle at the same rate you are pushing the pedal it would not need to shift at all. Probably one of my biggest gripes with the truck.
That's not necessarily throttle control. That's transmission control. At that point your throttle is wide open, the engine just doesn't have anything more to give you at that RPM, hence why it then downshifts.


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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by TommyG » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:33 am

DamageWagon wrote:
TommyG wrote:The lag in my 2012 is terrible. Going up an on ramp you press and press and press. Rather than accelerating it just stays the same when you reach a certain point it down shifts two gears and just screams. If it would just add throttle at the same rate you are pushing the pedal it would not need to shift at all. Probably one of my biggest gripes with the truck.
That's not necessarily throttle control. That's transmission control. At that point your throttle is wide open, the engine just doesn't have anything more to give you at that RPM, hence why it then downshifts.


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It is in an RPM range that it would accelerate if I could get throttle input. There shouldn't be nothing happening until the pedal gets to WOT. I am not talking about going from 40 to 80 in the length of the ramp. It does not pick up speed smoothly as you feed throttle to it. It is just flat and then wide open. I am sure it is trying to keep it in the most fuel efficient mode possible and the throttle control and transmission management both factor in. I went from a throttle cable truck to fly by wire for this one so it is still really foreign to me.
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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by jswider » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:50 am

My 2012 lags a lot. I think it is a combo of the throttle mapping and transmission tuning (torque management). The truck is great except for that. Hate the factory tuning or settings.

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Post by TwinStick » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:56 am

All "fly by wire" vehicles are like that to some extent. Just not the same as a throttle cable or linkage, IMHO anyways. Mine was REALLY bad. Then i read that the air rushing into & through the plastic intake/runners causes static electricity to build up (just like a plastic bedliner with gas cans---which is why they make you put them on the ground to fill--so you don't start a fire or blow yourself up, at least around here). And guess what is right there by the plastic air intake ? ---You guessed it, the fly by wire sensor and/or Throttle position sensor. I made up 2 grounding wires with eyelet ends, removed 2 bolts from the air intake, put the wire ends in there & replaced the bolts. Hooked the other ends to the 2 grounding strap bolts on each fender, after I removed them & ground the paint & primer off to bare metal. Replaced & sprayed with Fluid Film to prevent rust in the future. It did make a noticeable difference on my truck but it is still not as good as a direct link.
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G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by olyelr » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:39 pm

Did someone say fluid film? Whats that?
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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by TwinStick » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:55 pm

:lol:
2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls a 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Post by RustyPW » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:44 am

My '08 does some weird stuff. If I roll up to a stop sign or redlight that is slightly up hill. Slow down to a crawl,about 2~4 mgh. Then give it gas to go through. The truck doesn't respond like it should. I have to keep giving it gas. Once I hit about 3/4 pedal. It takes off, spinning tires.
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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by TwinStick » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:52 pm

:roll: Gotta love technology right ? It makes everything better, right ? :lol:
2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls a 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: BD throttle sensitivity booster

Post by TwinStick » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:49 am

In this months issue (July 2017) of Petersons 4Wheel & Off-Road, there is an article on page # 24 called "Improved throttle response in minutes." Check it out.
2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls a 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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