Oil Loss/Consumption???

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by chromedragon » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:19 am

I can attest to the weird oil consumption as well it's about 1 quart of oil per 1000-1500 miles and the driving terrain seems to be the only delta (driving or dragging things up hill) seems to be the culprit for higher oil consumption I have tried Rp 5-30, I have tried rotella 5-40 . I've tried the Lucas additive for synth oils. I have even at the suggestion of a non Chrysler engine tech tied plain Dino 10-40 no joy all seems to be consistent. I'm just about to break the 100k total mileage I'm trying delo oil 5-40 at this moment as anther comparison. I will. It's that I have been running the wix 51515 filter so I know that contributes to the reading lower but this is pretty consistant. I have only noted minor black soot on the tail pipe but no smoke. All the research I did said it's normal for a hemi. Mine does not have mds I still need to run an oil analysis. But the truck runs fine. Though my g56 has sprung a leak so I'm focused on that right now .
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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by TwinStick » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:00 pm

Is it the rubber boot on the shifter ? Mine is leaking from there as well. On the to-do list when weather warms up a bit more.
2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls a 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by 008wagon » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:08 pm

Bg epr is engine performance restore and the moa is a additive to add to the oil like Lucas

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by chromedragon » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:20 pm

I'm going to pull the console this weekend to confirm. I ordered a new boot via eBay as its apparently the easiest place to get it from. Ill update my build thread with what i find. as well as an update to the further adventures of my truck at the train station.
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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by 008wagon » Wed May 10, 2017 4:37 pm

Well almost 600 miles in since adding the flush and additive . Most of the miles towing I've noticed no loss of oil.

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by JFordBronco » Sat May 27, 2017 7:41 am

Follow up: Sorry, been gone for a bit. 1500ish miles since last oil change, everything is still sitting fine. No idea....y'all have a great weekend!

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by 008wagon » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:29 pm

Well still burning a quart every 1000-1200 miles. Would like to find the issue

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by TwinStick » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:28 pm

I just changed oil in my 08' a few days ago. Used Rotella 5/40 full synthetic. It may be a while before I report back on oil consumption. Summer maybe. It is really the only time my truck sees any real RPM's, towing the camper. Other than that, it is geared so low, it does not need much rpms to do anything i do with it. :D
2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls a 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by 008wagon » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:48 pm

I found the rotella to burn off worse than anything else also made some weird sounds in -25 below temps

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by nts007 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:09 pm

Engines are very cold at startup at -25 lol. I run the t6 0-40 in everything all winter
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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by TwinStick » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:44 pm

Block heaters RULE, in those temps ! :lol: Glad I checked off that box when I ordered mine. For $35, why would you not ? :rockon: Anything colder than that & those glue on oil pan & trans heaters would prob be required as well.

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2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls a 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by TwinStick » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:48 pm

008wagon,
Keep us posted on how those additives work out. :popcorn:
2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls a 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by 008wagon » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:19 pm

The additives didn’t really do much . I just changed the oil with castrol edge 5-30 high mileage to see if a high mileage oil don’t burn off as bad

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by Colibri » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:01 pm

Maybe consider doing a compression test. If that comes up normal I'd be inclined to suggest trying a catch can on your pcv system.

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by JFordBronco » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:32 am

Follow up again:
Changed the oil two weeks ago, I was back down to over a quart gone. No leaks(yet!) but its going somewhere. Truck still works great!

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:39 am

This would make me crazy. I have never owned a vehicle in good operating condition that needed oil between oil changes.
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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by nts007 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:18 pm

By chance. And this is likely a small chance are you filling oil up and checking it before you run it and get the filter full? Run it for 20 seconds at bout 1500 rpm then shut down and check oil. I know you probably do but some times that happens. You could easily lose most of a quart to that new Empty filter.
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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by JFordBronco » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:59 pm

nope, this is after it sits over night...right now its still good

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Re: Oil Loss/Consumption???

Post by RamGentry » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:38 pm

I'm going to add my truck to this list. 2010 w/ 150xxx miles. Use about a quart every 1,000-1,500 miles. Truck runs great, good oil pressure, no smoke noticed. I have always used syn 5w20 but switched from cheaper oriely brand to mobil1 and it seems to have increased oil consumption. Considering it runs well I'm relieved to know I'm not the only one and I'm not just completely missing something.
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