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Postby Easttnrhino » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:33 am

This may have been talked about before, but I was reading article in 4 wheel off road about carli suspension they took the rear sway bar off for a better ride. Has anyone tried this yet ? I have taken them off utvs and they rode better not much more sway. Thanks
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby Juday » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:27 am

There's only one way to find out.......................

Sway bar on the rear? Pffft, you guys and your coil springs.....
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby Easttnrhino » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:56 am

That the plan out of town on work right now proably just drop one link to see how and what it does. Just thought maybe I was cold trialing.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby DamageWagon » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:01 pm

I guarantee it will be a little smoother and have a little more sway. Same with any vehicle. This is why I leave my front bar disconnected. Rear is the same but a smaller effect.


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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby MikeKey » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:57 pm

I'd rather quick disconnects. It might ride better offroad, but I wouldn't want to do anything like towing or driving in rain with it disconnected.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby olyelr » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:30 pm

No first hand info with my pw, but i removed the links on the rear of my jk once and it was a total shitshow. Handled like crap... even off road. Best way i can describe it was it felt like the rear axle was falling off. Like it was walking all over. May be completely different with the pw...
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby MikeKey » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:32 pm

olyelr wrote:No first hand info with my pw, but i removed the links on the rear of my jk once and it was a total shitshow. Handled like crap... even off road. Best way i can describe it was it felt like the rear axle was falling off. Like it was walking all over. May be completely different with the pw...


We had a similar experience in the Trailblazer. The rear was a shitshow, but I think it did better offroad. The front you could leave disconnected on road. But it increased body roll it felt like around corners.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby DamageWagon » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:31 pm

Ive heard the rear swaybar on the JK is too small, so removing it would make sense to cause problems. There has to be something to control the body to the axle, and on rigs like that the front is designed to move a lot, so if you then let the rear move a lot the body will be all over the place. I can say for sure that shocks play a massive part in the equation. We just got back from towing our belongings 3300 miles and I had my swaybar disconnected the entire time. 3.0 kings up front controlled body roll nicely and 2.5 kings in back really made towing the trailer a sweet deal. Very comfortable.


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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby Bill2014 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:22 pm

I can see where removing the rear sway bar would improve off-road flexibility on the Power Wagon. On past vehicles, I've installed adjustable end links on one side of the front and rear sway bars to adjust vehicle side-to-side level. Highway cornering is usually improved by installing larger - heavy duty sway bars. It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish. :wink:
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby Easttnrhino » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:48 pm

Dropped one link to try it, definitely rides better on rode. Have went ahead and took it all the way off and put it pile with front bumper compabilty brackets.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby olyelr » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:14 pm

Keep us updated on how it feels with it removed.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby Easttnrhino » Tue May 16, 2017 10:01 am

Been running without for about a month now does ride a little better cannot tell any difference in curves, but I have not raced a corvette thru the dragon yet. Have hauled a heavy load but not a tall load.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby MikeKey » Tue May 16, 2017 10:23 am

I ran all of Moab without a rear sway bar. It's noticable on the road, especially with body roll. I put it back on when we towed home. I wouldn't drive with it disconnected full time. Just for wheeling.

That being said, off road, the rear had a lot more travel side to side with it disconnected. I think it's worthwhile for that endeavor. I am going to look into quick disconnects. But the 6 bolts don't take long to remove it.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby Bill2014 » Tue May 16, 2017 11:20 am

MikeKey wrote:I ran all of Moab without a rear sway bar. It's noticable on the road, especially with body roll. I put it back on when we towed home. I wouldn't drive with it disconnected full time. Just for wheeling.

That being said, off road, the rear had a lot more travel side to side with it disconnected. I think it's worthwhile for that endeavor. I am going to look into quick disconnects. But the 6 bolts don't take long to remove it.


You really only need to remove one end-link to disable it...
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby MikeKey » Tue May 16, 2017 12:19 pm

Bill2014 wrote:
MikeKey wrote:I ran all of Moab without a rear sway bar. It's noticable on the road, especially with body roll. I put it back on when we towed home. I wouldn't drive with it disconnected full time. Just for wheeling.

That being said, off road, the rear had a lot more travel side to side with it disconnected. I think it's worthwhile for that endeavor. I am going to look into quick disconnects. But the 6 bolts don't take long to remove it.


You really only need to remove one end-link to disable it...


That'd keep it from dangling.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby Easttnrhino » Tue May 16, 2017 12:42 pm

You must take twists in your truck like I do on my bike, seriously hard to tell the rear is off in the curves. Drove it for a few days with one link off, then put it in pile with air dam and the fangs that hang down in the front of truck.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby MikeKey » Tue May 16, 2017 1:48 pm

Easttnrhino wrote:You must take twists in your truck like I do on my bike, seriously hard to tell the rear is off in the curves. Drove it for a few days with one link off, then put it in pile with air dam and the fangs that hang down in the front of truck.


LOl maybe. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

191 is really twisty in Moab, follows the Colorado. So that was my testing, as we went down it a lot to get to trail heads. I do have the whole family in the truck and tools and stuff. Can effect ride and how it felt too.
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby coder » Tue May 16, 2017 1:53 pm

Easttnrhino wrote:This may have been talked about before, but I was reading article in 4 wheel off road about carli suspension they took the rear sway bar off for a better ride. Has anyone tried this yet? I have taken them off utvs and they rode better not much more sway. Thanks
Looks like Carli now has a 2014+ PW kit this must be new, I read through the instructions and it doesn't say anything about removing the rear sway bar.

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http://www.carlisuspension.com/dodge-pintop-25-3-system-14-2500.html

Install Intructions:
http://www.carlisuspension.com/Instructions/Dodge/Systems/3inSystems/Instructions%20-%20CS-D%28C20%2CBC%2CPT25%29-14-D.pdf
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Re: Rear sway bar

Postby DamageWagon » Tue May 16, 2017 2:03 pm

Now throw on some Kings and try it without the front swaybar. Tell me how you feel then :popcorn: party time!
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