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Post by waldo » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:18 am

I keep reading here and there that the PW has a different frame, but I've also read where it has the same frame as the 2500HD.

Other than some holes and weldments for skid plates and such, what's the truth?

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Post by ramv » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:52 am

Has to be generally the same frame. I would guess it would have a different part number due to some slightly different hole etc, but I bet either would work for either application with minor modifications. (2500 to Power Wagon). IE, I am sure a Cummins, G56, etc would be a bolt in, except for anything obvious (cutting the floorpan for the transmission shifter, winch interferes with intercooler).

Just a pure guess, but the economics wouldn't work for Daimler if they had to do a create new frame.

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Post by olyelr » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:49 am

And, what would be the point of creating a new/different frame? They would essentially end up being the same in the end.
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Post by DamageWagon » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:12 am

They are the same frame. You are correct, the only differences are maybe a few holes and skid plate mounts.


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Post by MikeKey » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:24 pm

I thought I read on this very site that it was the same, but had additional re-enforcement.
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Post by Low_Sky » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:28 pm

A few different holes and weldments, but I'm sure the structural members are the same as for a normal Hemi or Cummins 2500 crew 6'4" box. For example, the front track bar frame side mount is different, and that is a weldment.


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Post by Reloaderguy » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:55 pm

It's a half ton frame, that's why the capacity is so low.
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Post by nts007 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:29 pm

Frame was identical to the 2500 in all the 3rd gens. Had different part numbers for mounting points for additional protection and accessories. I have one in my yard here.
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Post by RustyPW » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:16 pm

nts007 wrote:Frame was identical to the 2500 in all the 3rd gens. Had different part numbers for mounting points for additional protection and accessories. I have one in my yard here.
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Post by adeluca73 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:45 am

It's a 2500HD base frame.
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Post by Bill2014 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:57 am

This is one of the pictures I took of the 2014 PW frame sticker when the truck was brand new...Image


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Post by TwinStick » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:52 am

They are the same for all intents & purposes. But they used to have different part #'s technically speaking. Not sure on the 2017's. Like the others have said, same frame, just some added/different holes for all the Power Wagon goodies. No big mystery here. :lol:
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-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

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Post by nts007 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:36 pm

Chrysler is to cheap to actually make a different Frame for the pw. But they want you to think they did :wink:
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