olyelr wrote:A fella near me had a '16 that he pulled the factory winch out of and installed a 16.5S in it's place.
DamageWagon wrote:I would aggressively try to stick with the PW stock assembly. A few guys have bought from a guy in New Mexico. Looks like he hair goes onto dealer lots, steals the winches and then offers them for sale regularly lol. Nothing else can compare to the for and finish of the factory assembly, and if you need more than an M15000 to unstick yourself, you're doing it wrong. Also the M series from Warn are sweet winches and I would happily keep mine versus replacing it. The Zeons are cool but large. Find a factory winch and cradle and you can still do whatever you want to the front end. The more forward you move that winch the more it affects your suspension and the more it becomes your bumper.
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TwinStick wrote:GLW your search. Personally, the only thing I would definitely want that was stock, is the winch cradle. They did a real good job with that. As far as the stock winch, I could care less, especially if i was gonna keep the truck. I am NOT a fan of the LVI (low voltage interupt) or the TPS (thermal protection system/switch). Just 2 more ("we gotta save them from themselves") electronic nannies, that can leave you stranded if they fail/or kick in, when you need them the most. If someone is too foolish to leave the truck running when winching & kills the battery, or too foolish to not realize it is getting really hot & needs a break, then I guess they deserve to be stranded. But many times, those 2 systems have kicked in when there was no reason to & left people stranded. Maybe not so much of an issue on the current crop/Generation Of Power Wagons, IDK for sure. It was on the 3rd Gens. Just something to think about if you can find the mount, but not a winch. A Warn M15000 or the 16.5 would be a fine alternative.
California_RAM wrote:If the dealer gave you cash....then he did you a huge favor. You can now purchase any aftermarket winch bumber for a regular Ram 2500 (tons more choices than the narrow PW selection). Now, after that you can purchase any winch of your chosing. That dealer did you a favor by pulling you out of the narrow PW market. You can purchase a nicer bumper, and a normal aftermarket winch instead of an obscure PW OEM winch that even the Warn guys aren't familiar with when you call them for help. Bottom-line you get to upgrade both.
TwinStick wrote:For $359.00, I'd buy the winch cradle from a dealer. I would also put the 16.5 winch in it, even if it had to be re-clocked.
FYI, our stock rollers are: Horizontal ones are 12 1/8" long. Vertical ones are 3" long. At least on a 3rd Gen.
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