What to do for broken axleshaft???

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What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by RAM4ROKS » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:15 pm

A buddy just called me looking for a driver's side front axle shaft for a 2007. The owner of the truck just snapped his and has a looong drive home so he needs one.

This got me thinking-
What the heck can we do if we snap a front axle shaft? (in terms of patching it up to get home)

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by olyelr » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:38 pm

Remove the inner shaft, and bolt the outer back on to the hub bearing.
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by RAM4ROKS » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:48 pm

Thought about that but, wouldn't all the gear oil come out since the inner axle seals rest on the shafts?

Or do the seals set to the carrier bearing races????

So, I thought- seal the end of the axle and overfill with gear oil but, seems like WAY too much chance of contamination from crap in the axle tube itself. (since the only seal is inner axle) Wish someone aftermarket made an outer axle seal like they do for Dana 44 and 60!

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by RustyPW » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:50 pm

There have been a number of '07's that broke the driver side axle shaft. The break is usually on the radius from shaft to u-joint flange on the axle shaft, not the stub shaft.
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by RAM4ROKS » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:53 pm

Correct, it was the portion in the axle tube NOT the stub that busted.

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by Colibri » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:54 pm

Stuff some rags or a t shirt or something into the end of the tube bolt the outer stub into place and drive home trouble free I say :rockon:

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by nts007 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:40 am

You do what u have to. Rags tape. Whatever. Make it work n get home
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by adeluca73 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:16 am

Remove inner, bolt up outer, over fill by 25%, 14" zip ties and freezer bags
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by bstefanic » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:57 am

I drove my 06 like 800 miles home with no driver side axle shaft after I snapped it...everything was fine
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:11 am

Another good reason to upgrade to free-spin hubs. :idea:

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by whitey » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:43 pm

Ram4rocks - you give me a call if you need an axle shaft for an 07, assuming we are talking about a dodge 2500 and has the AAM 9.25 axle. I think you have my info?

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by RustyPW » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:33 pm

Why do you think I have RCV axles. :lol:
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:42 am

I take it axle breakage is less on the newer generation after the change to a the larger rear diff? Just heard of someone spinning there tires on a regular 2500 in snow and busting one a little while back. Just snow!
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by RustyPW » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:35 am

The rear 10.5 AAM on the PW has the same axle shaft as the 11.5 AAM. The standard 2500 10.5 uses a smaller axle shaft. The front 9.5 AAM axle shaft is the same for all 2500's and 3500's.
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by MikeKey » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:32 am

RustyPW wrote:Why do you think I have RCV axles. :lol:

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by RAM4ROKS » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:20 pm

whitey wrote:Ram4rocks - you give me a call if you need an axle shaft for an 07, assuming we are talking about a dodge 2500 and has the AAM 9.25 axle. I think you have my info?
Thank you! I do now!

Also, thank you everyone for the responses!

They ended up just removing the broken shaft, cleaning out the axle tube, sealing the axle tube at the "C", taking the stub shaft off and bolting it back in and driving home.

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by nts007 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:25 pm

RAM4ROKS wrote:
whitey wrote:Ram4rocks - you give me a call if you need an axle shaft for an 07, assuming we are talking about a dodge 2500 and has the AAM 9.25 axle. I think you have my info?
Thank you! I do now!

Also, thank you everyone for the responses!

They ended up just removing the broken shaft, cleaning out the axle tube, sealing the axle tube at the "C", taking the stub shaft off and bolting it back in and driving home.
That works in a pinch. Glad they got it figured
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by RAM4ROKS » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:48 pm

nts007 wrote:
RAM4ROKS wrote:
whitey wrote:Ram4rocks - you give me a call if you need an axle shaft for an 07, assuming we are talking about a dodge 2500 and has the AAM 9.25 axle. I think you have my info?
Thank you! I do now!

Also, thank you everyone for the responses!

They ended up just removing the broken shaft, cleaning out the axle tube, sealing the axle tube at the "C", taking the stub shaft off and bolting it back in and driving home.
That works in a pinch. Glad they got it figured
Thanks man! Yeah, they were from about 10 hours away and needed to get home!

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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by TwinStick » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:52 pm

RustyPW wrote:The rear 10.5 AAM on the PW has the same axle shaft as the 11.5 AAM. The standard 2500 10.5 uses a smaller axle shaft. The front 9.5 AAM axle shaft is the same for all 2500's and 3500's.
Yup, this is correct. A reg 2500 10.5" is 1.23" dia. A PW 10.5" is 1.53" dia.
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-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by olyelr » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:08 pm

TwinStick wrote:
RustyPW wrote:The rear 10.5 AAM on the PW has the same axle shaft as the 11.5 AAM. The standard 2500 10.5 uses a smaller axle shaft. The front 9.5 AAM axle shaft is the same for all 2500's and 3500's.
Yup, this is correct. A reg 2500 10.5" is 1.23" dia. A PW 10.5" is 1.53" dia.

You guys must be talking about them dinosaur trucks again with those little rear axles :mrgreen:
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:21 pm

olyelr wrote:
TwinStick wrote:
RustyPW wrote:The rear 10.5 AAM on the PW has the same axle shaft as the 11.5 AAM. The standard 2500 10.5 uses a smaller axle shaft. The front 9.5 AAM axle shaft is the same for all 2500's and 3500's.
Yup, this is correct. A reg 2500 10.5" is 1.23" dia. A PW 10.5" is 1.53" dia.

You guys must be talking about them dinosaur trucks again with those little rear axles :mrgreen:
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by nts007 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:46 pm

The truth will set you free.... Why you think I swapped my overweight oversized 11.5 for a proper 10.5 with big axle shafts
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by olyelr » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:24 am

nts007 wrote:The truth will set you free.... Why you think I swapped my overweight oversized 11.5 for a proper 10.5 with big axle shafts
So your 7500 pound truck now weighs 7420 pounds and has 3/16" more ground clearance lol. Jk, my post has some seriousness to it, as i kept seeing 10.5" but thought i had a 11.5".
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by nts007 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:20 am

No I think my truck is a bit more portly than that. But it goes fast..... Because of that axle weight reduction yes!
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Re: What to do for broken axleshaft???

Post by TwinStick » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:35 pm

:doh: Actually, the new 2017 Power Wagons have 35mm front axle shafts ( 1.37795") and the rear is 38mm (1.49606"). So the 1.53" axle shafts (same as the 1ton diesels) (38.862mm) in the tiny axle is actually stronger, but the axle housing is stronger in the 11.5". There, cleared that up for ya ! :rockon:

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G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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