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Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Easttnrhino » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:46 pm

Wanting to mount my 60" hi lift in the bed of my power wagon with ram boxs, any body got any ideas? Thanks
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by TwinStick » Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:31 pm

Have a custom bed rack made, then mount it on that.

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-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by ramv » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:30 am

On my normal bed I have a shovel above the wheel well one one side, hi lift other. With ram box I might did assemble and try to store inside it.

Just remember guns don't kill people, hi lifts do. I hate them with a passion and would recommend an aluminum racing floor jack instead.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by olyelr » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:05 am

ramv wrote:
Just remember guns don't kill people, hi lifts do.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Easttnrhino » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:32 am

Not saying a floor jack is not neat, but I have never used them as winch or to put rocks under tire or jacked the vehicle up and moved it over side ways.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by verdesardog » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:50 pm

olyelr wrote:
ramv wrote:
Just remember guns don't kill people, hi lifts do.
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hi lifts don't kill people, ignorance, complacency and stupidity when using them do though....
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by TheDirtRoad » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:47 pm

My Hi-lift is only a 48" but this is how I mounted it. I have to take the base plate off the jack but I modified that also with a bigger plate for use in snow and sand to help avoid sinking(It is attached to the jack with one bolt when stored) I used aluminum unistrut attached to the rails. No bolting thru the truck. The original tie downs can't travel very far but I don't use those anyway. The cargo divider could still be used to a point if I didn't have my shovel mounted that way. The other bar going from side to side is just to hold my pul-pal in place.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by ramv » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:11 pm

verdesardog wrote:
olyelr wrote:
ramv wrote:
Just remember guns don't kill people, hi lifts do.
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hi lifts don't kill people, ignorance, complacency and stupidity when using them do though....
And hi lifts.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by MSCH2112 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:21 pm

see pic. a 60" should still fit.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by TwinStick » Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:10 am

Hi-Lifts have their place. I have one. The 60" Rescue Jack. I think it gives you more options for off-road use as well. It is one of those things that you need a good understanding of & it's capabilities to use it properly and safely. Trouble with most vehicles today, a Hi-lift can not be used on it due to lack of bumper strength & bumper mounting bracket strength. You certainly can use it in/on a 2" receiver hitch, or custom bumpers &/or Rock Rails.

Anything not used properly can injure or kill you. The trick with Hi-Lifts is to make sure the jaw does not/can not slip off of what ever you are jacking up. Unless you have dedicated Hi-Lift jack slots in your bumpers/rock-rails, you have to get a little creative. A simple 10,000 lb axle strap w/protective sleeve in 24" or 34" or a nice piece of short chain & a large grade 8 bolt, washers, lock washer, nut, &/or a grade 8 bolt through the hitch pin will keep it from slipping off of the jacking point. 2 pieces of 4"x4" wood to your desired length will keep it from sinking into soft terrain. If you have holes in your base, you can lag bolt it to the 4x4 wood, to keep the bottom from slipping as well. If doing any rocks, it is very possible to have to use your winch and a high lift to get up over a rock while pulling yourself forward with the winch.

This is a great video to watch for ideas for other uses as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nakSPmLpWsI

Then there is all the off-road uses as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFAyCa4vFoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfbR4REV-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgjqhU5PgkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FRMK7ZstaY

Many good accessories avail to make them safer too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1y2O5__IMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxsBTyht9xI
http://www.hi-lift.net/accessories/lift-mate.html
http://www.hi-lift.net/accessories/bumper-lift.html
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-Winc ... =H%2fLHK-R
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-Winc ... n=H%2fLORK
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/pro ... detail.htm
http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/off-road-kit.html
http://www.jackguard.com/

And there are probably just as many videos of bad things happening with Hi-Lift style jacks, of people not using them properly.
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G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by ramv » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:30 pm

They are fine, I really just thought it was a funny slogan.

I will say, if you store them outside, they need a ton of lubrication if you aren't using them all the time. I also rebuilt mine pretty regularly. I also have found you can fail them at below designed weight. The tall ones (72"s) also bend pretty easy if you are ever in a situation where they are stressed by a side force. (IE the jack failed and you have to drive off of it.)

For tire/wheel related, I like a floor jack with skid plate as they are quicker, much safer, and you aren't unloading the suspension to get the tire off the ground. Obviously if you are high centered on a rocker or t'case, the high lift is better.

They are a very cheap way of gaining mechanical advantage....
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Ducky's Dad » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:18 pm

See pic of 48" Hi-Lift in my old GMC. No pics with me of the PW mount, but I have a 60" Extreme on a similar mount, but with the jack base resting on a steel lip bolted to the face of the taillight housing inside the bed. The jack post is wing-nutted to a bracket bolted through the fender well. Use a jack isolator to keep everything quiet, and use stainless bolts and wingnuts with anti-seize so that you can deploy the jack without needing other tools. This setup is similar to the way AZ game wardens have the jacks mounted in their trucks.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by TheDirtRoad » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:21 am

These are all good ideas but .I believe the OP is looking for ideas for the Ram Box.

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Post by olyelr » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:27 am

TheDirtRoad wrote:These are all good ideas but .I believe the OP is looking for ideas for the Ram Box.

I thought that originally too, but nope, he is looking to mount them in the bed (according to his post anyway).
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Easttnrhino » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:44 am

I was thinking bed to begin with and I have the ram boxs, I after hearing and seeing a lot of good ideas I thinking maybe in one of the ram boxs, my jack is 60". Thanks for all the ideas.
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Post by olyelr » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:02 am

Easttnrhino wrote:I was thinking bed to begin with and I have the ram boxs, I after hearing and seeing a lot of good ideas I thinking maybe in one of the ram boxs, my jack is 60". Thanks for all the ideas.
The back side of the rambox is under 60" wide, so it may be a tight fit if it will even fit at all. How long is the jack?
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by ramv » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:31 am

The base is pinned so it can go to the shaft length (60") quickly. Could cut a few inches off so it would fit?
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Easttnrhino » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:33 am

Looking at those ideas, wonder how it would look standing straight up in bed like they do on the side of jeeps or on their tire rack.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Ducky's Dad » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:42 am

wonder how it would look standing straight up in bed like they do on the side of jeeps or on their tire rack.
I think it would look like you couldn't figure out a better way to mount it.

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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by TwinStick » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:47 am

Ducky's Dad wrote:
wonder how it would look standing straight up in bed like they do on the side of jeeps or on their tire rack.
I think it would look like you couldn't figure out a better way to mount it.
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Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Post by olyelr » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:51 am

Easttnrhino wrote:Looking at those ideas, wonder how it would look standing straight up in bed like they do on the side of jeeps or on their tire rack.

I think if i wanted to carry one around, i would do like ramv stated and cut an inch of the shaft and sneek it in my passenger side rambox with all my other straps and stuff. But i would take some time and get it mounted securely, somehow. There has to be a way.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Easttnrhino » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:52 am

:lol: Probably right :lol:
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Low_Sky » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:18 am

I think trimming the jack to fit in the box is going to be the way to go. Mounting it in the bed is going to interfere with the bed divider (which I find very useful), and take up a few inches of your bed width (I pack my bed pretty tight with gear in plastic totes or ice chests).


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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by ramv » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:17 pm

The neoprene cover works pretty well, along with the Daystar isolator. The fake leather one falls apart the first time you use it.
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Re: Hi lift jack ideas

Post by Low_Sky » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:32 pm

I know this thread is old, but here's how I just mounted mine in a RamBox truck. Took the jack apart to its major pieces: jack bar, foot (replaced the bolt with a 1/4" pin), handle (replaced the cotter pin with a single leg snap button), and running gear. I built plywood dividers and a jig to hold the jack bar and handle. The handle's held on with Quick Fist clamps, and the jack bar is on 1/2" bolts with wing nuts.
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