Borgeson 800123 box

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Borgeson 800123 box

Post by Sony224422 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:16 am

Hi everyone,

Some of you may remember me from dodge talk. I don't have a power wagon but you guys always were able to help me out :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Anyways, has anyone gotten the borgeson 800123 box? Is it actually literally the mopar box rebuilt? Are they lasting? I have the big mopar box on now and its shot again according to the shop that did my alignment. I have done an entirely new front end last weekend, carli ball joints, t style synergy steering, carli low mount, new wheel bearings, new u joints, new nitto trail grapplers 265/70/17 load E, carli endlinks, and i put new bushings and heim joint on my thuren track bar. I have the borgeson steering shaft already, and i have the big mopar upgrade box with the huge selector shaft. I have a stock height truck so i have been running the pitman arm that came with it. I also have Black ops diesel control arms the original i beam style. I don't know if my caster is adjusted correctly but I think it is.

I guess i will have to change out the box again, im pretty sure its leaking too a little bit. Will the borgeson box fit the same foot print and all that for my steering brace? I really don't want to get another one of those either. Any reviews on it? I've seen other people not so happy with borgeson products, and same with redhead and PSC.

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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by RustyPW » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:44 pm

Welcome to the forum. What is wrong with your box? Loose output shaft? Leaking fluid? Lack of power? Which box you have? 4 bolt top, or the 6 bolt top? Check with Dodge OffRoad. He has some steering box up-grades. I've been running the PSC box for awhile. The Redhead boxes has some issues not long ago. Don't know if they got their poop together or not.
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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by Sony224422 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:32 am

Its the big box with big selector shaft i think 6 bolt that was supposed to cure all the problems for wandering and such. I don't know where its leaking from but it is leaking I can see the fluid build up and drip off it. My steering wheel has play in it still and it feels like it wanders a bit going down the road. It also always seems to be under load, but that could be my pump. I think i can make it until next summer but its just annoying having to over correct all the time
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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by RustyPW » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:08 pm

Read this thread and make sure this ain't going on.

http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... f=2&t=3446
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Mods to the PW; Nerffed Mopar RockRails, Wheel Well Liners, Bushwacker Pocket Fender Flairs, Garvmin dezl 560LMT GPS, Power Wagon Winch Kit, Line X Ultra Bed Liner, PIAA Headlight Bulbs, PIAA 580 Driving Lights (135 watt), PIAA 520 Fog Lights (135 watt), PIAA 520 ATP Off-Road Lights (135 watt), Locker Bypass, Modifed Rockcrusher Diff Covers, Mopar Utility Bed Rails and Tool Box, Warn Winch Wireless Remote Control, "el-cheapo" Inclinometer, Airaid CAI, Winch TPS Bypass, 35" Toyo's, Mopar Spare Tire Lock, 'T' Steering Linkage, Modifed PSC Steering Brace, P3 Brake Controller, Modifed Fusion "mall crawler" rear bumper , PIAA 1500 Back-Up Lights, 1Ton HEMI Tranny Cooler, Leer 100XR Bed Cap, Factory Tow Mirrors, CenterLine Rims 17x9-5.25 BS, Mag-Hytec Tranny Pan, AutoMeter Gauges, PSC Extreme Hydro Assist Steering, Carli G2 Track Bar, Carli Ball-Joints, Dynatrac FreeSpin Hubs, Snorkel, RCV Axles, EBC Pads & Rotors, Aluminess Front Bumper, 14,000 lb Pul-Pal, 60" Extreme Hi-lift Jack, and more riggin' equipment, Carli Long Travel Air Bags, Bilstein 7100 Shocks - Carli Valving, Carli Control Arms, Thuren 3" SoftRide Springs, Thuren Rear Shackles, MagnaFlow Muffler, Crown Stainless Brake Lines, MORE STUFF COMIN'.

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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by Sony224422 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:31 pm

RustyPW wrote:Read this thread and make sure this ain't going on.

http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... f=2&t=3446

I appreciate the help, however i have the borgeson steering shaft
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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by Sony224422 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:37 pm

Hello everyone,

I'm back. I kind of forgot about this, and now i need to get another alignment after being told the box is so sloppy now it needs to be replaced.

I am still looking hard at this borgeson box. Has anyone tried it yet? I am just afraid i will get it, get it in, and be unimpressed. I wasn't really impressed with the current box i have now, but i have gotten used to the wander of it. The bigger dodge box seemed to have failed way faster than the original one.
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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by Colibri » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:12 pm

Sadly there’s not a great box out there that I’ve found. I’ve tried all of them including the Borgeson and have wound up with a big 6 bolt rebuilt and tapped for hydro by Howe Steering. That’s lasted the longest for me going on two years so far.
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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by Reloaderguy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:57 pm

I have a factory 2016 steering box with 22k miles on it that I'd sell.
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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by Sony224422 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:01 pm

You tried the newest Borgeson box and it didn’t hold up? The big 6 they rework? Jeez this is bad
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Borgeson 800123 box

Post by DamageWagon » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:08 pm

Skip Borgeson and Redhead and buy a PSC. I can get you a PSC box that is brand new and has bigger bearings, bigger apply piston, the current trucks’ case (much bigger than 3rd gen), with the monster output sector shaft to run 08+ steering, with the same input shaft your truck has so you don’t have to remove and buy a new input shaft. It’s the sweetest deal out there for a 03-08 truck.

Don’t waste your money on something with as much play as your worn out box.

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Re: Borgeson 800123 box

Post by whtpwrwgn » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:50 pm

I have the borgeson box on my 07 and it drives like a different truck. Wish I would have done it sooner.

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