Kill-switch for electronic nannies

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Re: Kill-switch for electronic nannies

Post by Reloaderguy » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:50 pm

Word to the wise, don't use a 1/4" impact to remove the yaw sensor screws while the truck is running. It'll set off an ECS fault code that can only be cleared with a computer.

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Post by olyelr » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:25 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:Word to the wise, don't use a 1/4" impact to remove the yaw sensor screws while the truck is running. It'll set off an ECS fault code that can only be cleared with a computer.

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olyelr wrote:
Reloaderguy wrote:Word to the wise, don't use a 1/4" impact to remove the yaw sensor screws while the truck is running. It'll set off an ECS fault code that can only be cleared with a computer.

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Nothing now. The EVIC lit up like a 4 Alam fire so I put everything back together. I cleared out the codes when I reprogrammed the TPMS today.

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Reprogram TPMS???? Do tell
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adeluca73 wrote:Reprogram TPMS???? Do tell

This is what he posted in his build thread...
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adeluca73 wrote:Reprogram TPMS???? Do tell
We would like to nominate you to buy the tool mentioned above and tour the East coast flashing our trucks... ;)

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adeluca73 wrote:Reprogram TPMS???? Do tell
We would like to nominate you to buy the tool mentioned above and tour the East coast flashing our trucks... ;)
I think I'm combining this and the 30psi TPMS thread together.... lol

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Post by Reloaderguy » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:50 am

There are members in AZ, TX, WA, and I think MD doing the reprogram in person. I got on a rental waiting list in December which was fine since I went on vacation for two weeks during Christmas.

The reprogram took 5 minutes. I had the computer two hours from the time the mailman delivered it to the time I put it back in the mail. The cost was $100 plus shipping ($165 total). I removed the speed governor while I was in there.

I couldn't find any other pertinent functionality for changing options (tire size calibration, fogs, smart bar, etc). This device is really for shops, not enthusiasts. I also had to get the 4 digit security pin number from a dealer which required emailing my registration and driver's license to prove ID.

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Post by Mike-H » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:51 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:There are members in AZ, TX, WA, and I think MD doing the reprogram in person.
Any idea who's doing the reprogramming in AZ?

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adeluca73 wrote:Reprogram TPMS???? Do tell
We would like to nominate you to buy the tool mentioned above and tour the East coast flashing our trucks... ;)
Color me interested....did you upsize the orange mamba yet?
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adeluca73 wrote:
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adeluca73 wrote:Reprogram TPMS???? Do tell
We would like to nominate you to buy the tool mentioned above and tour the East coast flashing our trucks... ;)
Color me interested....did you upsize the orange mamba yet?
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adeluca73 wrote:
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We would like to nominate you to buy the tool mentioned above and tour the East coast flashing our trucks... ;)
Color me interested....did you upsize the orange mamba yet?
https://www.amazon.com/Autel-MS906-Auto ... axisys+906
MF---$1200--color me not so interested, that's ⅓ of the way to my new suspension. $1200 buys a lot of patience looking at a small yellow light & doing the mental kabooky dance adjusting my speedo... :doh:
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adeluca73 wrote:
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adeluca73 wrote:Reprogram TPMS???? Do tell
We would like to nominate you to buy the tool mentioned above and tour the East coast flashing our trucks... ;)
Color me interested....did you upsize the orange mamba yet?
Not yet, sliders to come first... I'm betting I'll have to wear out these sneakers first to justify the funds.


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Post by nts007 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:10 am

1200 bucks and it can reprogram keys? You could charge $50 just for the tpms reprogram and recover cost and that would be a deal! For others. That and transmission reprogramming? The snap on equivalent is even more money. Seems like a decent investment. For those that would rather not pay a dealership $200-500 to diagnose once off warranty
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Post by Reloaderguy » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:47 am

The 906 will only trigger a relearn, it has no transmission programming functionality that I could find. I went through all of the options and all I could find that I wanted to change was TPMS and speed governor. The tire calibration feature is only populated with factory tire sizes.

The device is a diagnostic tool for every major platform, it's not specifically for Ram trucks. I paid $100 to rent one, now that I've used it I'm glad I didn't buy it. An AE is probably more useful outside of the TPMS.

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Mike-H wrote:
Reloaderguy wrote:There are members in AZ, TX, WA, and I think MD doing the reprogram in person.
Any idea who's doing the reprogramming in AZ?
Its BPMPVET on the Cummins forum. I have been in contact to do mine, just been to busy to get by Dealership to get Key Pin # . I hope to do within next few weeks ? Seems like a really good dude.

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Post by nts007 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:37 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:The 906 will only trigger a relearn, it has no transmission programming functionality that I could find. I went through all of the options and all I could find that I wanted to change was TPMS and speed governor. The tire calibration feature is only populated with factory tire sizes.

The device is a diagnostic tool for every major platform, it's not specifically for Ram trucks. I paid $100 to rent one, now that I've used it I'm glad I didn't buy it. An AE is probably more useful outside of the TPMS.
It has the ability to do the quick learn and moniter clutch values so if and when you replace your transmission you can do it yourself. I used a snap on version to do this when I replace my tranny and the snap on one is much more $$$ either way it's a good alternative.
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Post by bstefanic » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:53 pm

Just out of curiosity...when you get 40 mph or so will the the traction control light turn itself off?
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Post by olyelr » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:14 am

bstefanic wrote:Just out of curiosity...when you hot 40 mph or so will the the traction control light turn itself off?
With the fuse pulled? No.
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bstefanic wrote:Just out of curiosity...when you hot 40 mph or so will the the traction control light turn itself off?
With the fuse pulled? No.
With the fuse still in...tried turning the traction control off for the first time last night and even at 70 mph the light stayed on
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Post by olyelr » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:22 am

bstefanic wrote:
olyelr wrote:
bstefanic wrote:Just out of curiosity...when you hot 40 mph or so will the the traction control light turn itself off?
With the fuse pulled? No.
With the fuse still in...tried turning the traction control off for the first time last night and even at 70 mph the light stayed on

When you hit the button, all that does is allow you to spin your rear tires when going in a straight line. All other nannies are still in place.
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Post by TwinStick » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:50 pm

It seems that soon, all these electronic nannies will prevent us from using these trucks where they were designed to perform best --- off-road. The simple answer would be to have them all shut off when in 4wd. But the factory would never do that, it would make too much sense. I can not think of 1 off road situation where having an elec nannie would have helped me.

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TwinStick wrote:It seems that soon, all these electronic nannies will prevent us from using these trucks where they were designed to perform best --- off-road. The simple answer would be to have them all shut off when in 4wd. But the factory would never do that, it would make too much sense. I can not think of 1 off road situation where having an elec nannie would have helped me.

Thats just it... off road they are downright wrong. Maybe the hill descend is a neat option, but I dont know I have not used it. The rest of the garbage doesnt belong on an off road vehicle. There should be a simple on/off switch for it all, but I understand they simply cant do that.

On road none of them bother me much at all. I like most of them actually. Maybe the ABS ticks me off once in a blue moon, but otherwise they dont bother me during on road driving.
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Post by nts007 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:07 pm

Abs is the one that I cant stand. It's also the only one I have to deal with. Tomorrow I'm going to measure resistance across the abs sensor and see if I can Bypass the abs system and unplug the abs pump. I was talking to an old timer Chrysler mechanic and he thinks it might work and keep the comp happy.

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Also this is my other thought. Make sure the abs system loses power right when it kicks on
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