Delrin rollers for factory winch
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
Colibri, all you'd need would be the delrin rollers themselves with the the exact dimensions and reuse the bushings and rods...
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Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
It would be nice to see if the 4G is the same and they just have not cross referenced the new PN on the 4G to the 3G. I have found this to be an issue with all manufacturers. The part is the same but it is through a different supplier so it did not get cross-referenced. But in reality the sub-assemblies are the same even if the mount has changed to a different size to fit a different frame.
So if it is the same then the problem is solved if I recall they were not at all expensive to get from the dealer for a 3G when they were available.
So if it is the same then the problem is solved if I recall they were not at all expensive to get from the dealer for a 3G when they were available.
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1) Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment – 354 pages http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/the_a ... shment.pdf
2) Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton 165 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... tion-5.pdf
3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
4) Wall Street and FDR by Antony C. Sutton 177 pages http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
5) Dishonest Money by Joseph Plummer 175 pages http://joeplummer.com/dishonest-money.html
6) None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen 197 pages http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/libra ... y_1971.pdf
David Rockefeller: Memoirs (The story of traitors)
http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_November/ ... rnment.pdf
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Beginners reading list:
1) Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment – 354 pages http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/the_a ... shment.pdf
2) Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton 165 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... tion-5.pdf
3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
4) Wall Street and FDR by Antony C. Sutton 177 pages http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
5) Dishonest Money by Joseph Plummer 175 pages http://joeplummer.com/dishonest-money.html
6) None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen 197 pages http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/libra ... y_1971.pdf
David Rockefeller: Memoirs (The story of traitors)
http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_November/ ... rnment.pdf
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Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
What about ordering some from Warn that are known to be too long and just having a machine shop shorten them? If the bore is the same, shortening and chamfering the ends should be cheap.
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
Their not too lng their too short from what I have read.
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Beginners reading list:
1) Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment – 354 pages http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/the_a ... shment.pdf
2) Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton 165 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... tion-5.pdf
3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
4) Wall Street and FDR by Antony C. Sutton 177 pages http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
5) Dishonest Money by Joseph Plummer 175 pages http://joeplummer.com/dishonest-money.html
6) None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen 197 pages http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/libra ... y_1971.pdf
David Rockefeller: Memoirs (The story of traitors)
http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_November/ ... rnment.pdf
http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2305
Beginners reading list:
1) Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment – 354 pages http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/the_a ... shment.pdf
2) Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton 165 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... tion-5.pdf
3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
4) Wall Street and FDR by Antony C. Sutton 177 pages http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
5) Dishonest Money by Joseph Plummer 175 pages http://joeplummer.com/dishonest-money.html
6) None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen 197 pages http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/libra ... y_1971.pdf
David Rockefeller: Memoirs (The story of traitors)
http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_November/ ... rnment.pdf
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Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
I can't measure mine because the truck is back in the shop, but there may be something in the Warn parts list that is longer than our OEM rollers. Can't make Warn parts longer but you can always make them shorter to get the right size if the diameter and the bores are suitable.
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Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
I don't have a PW but it seems the horizontal rollers are longer and the vertical ones are shorter than normally available fairleads....
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Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
They're not the same, the H's are longer and the V's are shorter and I believe the diameter is smaller also. Even after wearing out my factory wire rope, I sanded and polished mine and have been using synthetic rope for years with no issues at all. However, instead of new/different rollers, I'd be interested in an aluminum hawse fairlead. That would be an easier part to machine...
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
That's exactly it I believe. Can buy short sides and make them shorter but nothing is long enough for the main rollers.
Just ordered a factor55 hawse fairlead. Going to try to make a hawse adapter bracket that bolts to the cradle with 1/2" gr8 hardware through the roller shaft holes.
Just ordered a factor55 hawse fairlead. Going to try to make a hawse adapter bracket that bolts to the cradle with 1/2" gr8 hardware through the roller shaft holes.
Central Texas and Houston area
2009 5.7 auto quadcab
Carli 3” coils deaver leafs 3” kings with 4 tube bypass rear and fr/rr hydro bumps
Howe steering pump and gear with hydraulic ram assist
Custom tube bumpers and white knuckle sliders
Creative fab trussed axle. rem polished and cryoed 5.13 gears with arb lockers fr/rr
Sharadon stage 2 545rfe with 3000 stall edge converter
Lots of other stuff lol
2009 5.7 auto quadcab
Carli 3” coils deaver leafs 3” kings with 4 tube bypass rear and fr/rr hydro bumps
Howe steering pump and gear with hydraulic ram assist
Custom tube bumpers and white knuckle sliders
Creative fab trussed axle. rem polished and cryoed 5.13 gears with arb lockers fr/rr
Sharadon stage 2 545rfe with 3000 stall edge converter
Lots of other stuff lol
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
I edited my post above and didn't see your last response until after. but yeah...
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
That is what I'm doing. Have the f55 fairlead and going to to machine/fabricate an adapter for the winch mount as well as clear the Carli/Creative Fab bumper. I'd like it to integrate and fit seamlessly as if it were meant that way.Colibri wrote:That's exactly it I believe. Can buy short sides and make them shorter but nothing is long enough for the main rollers.
Just ordered a factor55 hawse fairlead. Going to try to make a hawse adapter bracket that bolts to the cradle with 1/2" gr8 hardware through the roller shaft holes.
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Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
The roller fair lead on the pw is actually backwards to most conventional rollers as the short verticals are on the inside instead of the outside. Which is why the horizontal rollers are longer.
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Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
I wonder if you went to delrin rollers with the stock pins if they would be strong enough or if the long rollers would bend when they had a vertical load on them especially with the line near the middle of the rollers?
It would probably be easier to remove the rollers and go with an adaptor for a hawse type fairlead that would bolt in in place of the 2 long rollers. That way you could also space the hawse slightly farther ahead to keep the synthetic line from contacting any sharp edges on the chrome bumper.
It would probably be easier to remove the rollers and go with an adaptor for a hawse type fairlead that would bolt in in place of the 2 long rollers. That way you could also space the hawse slightly farther ahead to keep the synthetic line from contacting any sharp edges on the chrome bumper.
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Black 09 purchased Dec 21/13
180K kms on the clock
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with pit slave, I'm about to start building a front bumper based off of pattonfab horns and am trying to integrate the winch cradle and fairlead as seemlessly as possible as well.
I was also beginning to think delrin might deflect on the longer rollers under heavy load. Hawse seems better way to go for sure.
I was also beginning to think delrin might deflect on the longer rollers under heavy load. Hawse seems better way to go for sure.
Central Texas and Houston area
2009 5.7 auto quadcab
Carli 3” coils deaver leafs 3” kings with 4 tube bypass rear and fr/rr hydro bumps
Howe steering pump and gear with hydraulic ram assist
Custom tube bumpers and white knuckle sliders
Creative fab trussed axle. rem polished and cryoed 5.13 gears with arb lockers fr/rr
Sharadon stage 2 545rfe with 3000 stall edge converter
Lots of other stuff lol
2009 5.7 auto quadcab
Carli 3” coils deaver leafs 3” kings with 4 tube bypass rear and fr/rr hydro bumps
Howe steering pump and gear with hydraulic ram assist
Custom tube bumpers and white knuckle sliders
Creative fab trussed axle. rem polished and cryoed 5.13 gears with arb lockers fr/rr
Sharadon stage 2 545rfe with 3000 stall edge converter
Lots of other stuff lol
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
It is a Power Wagon, it is a Mans truck, and we should use Man Steal for our Winch cables... ropes are for Toys.. LOL.
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35in KM2’s, De-Politicized Winch (No LVI, Etc)
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1980 CJ7 – Rino Lined, 33x12.50 Pro Comp AMC 360ci
1974 CJ7 – AMC 304ci, Beaten but fun “Brush Buggy”
Kaw Brute 650 – One Bad 4x4, winch, 12 lights
Line X – 2in Front Leveler (Pro Comp), Hard wired Lockers, Front Fog Lights,
35in KM2’s, De-Politicized Winch (No LVI, Etc)
5th Wheel hitch
1980 CJ7 – Rino Lined, 33x12.50 Pro Comp AMC 360ci
1974 CJ7 – AMC 304ci, Beaten but fun “Brush Buggy”
Kaw Brute 650 – One Bad 4x4, winch, 12 lights
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
I agree, but that rope sure does eliminate the snake bites from an old worn wire rope for loggin and actually using it.Chiprat1 wrote:It is a Power Wagon, it is a Mans truck, and we should use Man Steal for our Winch cables... ropes are for Toys.. LOL.
2010 with 37" hooves, controlled by numerous Thuren parts and Thuren Custom King 2.5's (Moved to a new home)
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
Hahaha that's great. However in this instance my masterpull xd is over twice the strength at the same diameter as the oem steel rope and about a 1/4 the weight. As far as I know it's the best line available at this time. Does that make my wagon metrosexual? Lol
Central Texas and Houston area
2009 5.7 auto quadcab
Carli 3” coils deaver leafs 3” kings with 4 tube bypass rear and fr/rr hydro bumps
Howe steering pump and gear with hydraulic ram assist
Custom tube bumpers and white knuckle sliders
Creative fab trussed axle. rem polished and cryoed 5.13 gears with arb lockers fr/rr
Sharadon stage 2 545rfe with 3000 stall edge converter
Lots of other stuff lol
2009 5.7 auto quadcab
Carli 3” coils deaver leafs 3” kings with 4 tube bypass rear and fr/rr hydro bumps
Howe steering pump and gear with hydraulic ram assist
Custom tube bumpers and white knuckle sliders
Creative fab trussed axle. rem polished and cryoed 5.13 gears with arb lockers fr/rr
Sharadon stage 2 545rfe with 3000 stall edge converter
Lots of other stuff lol
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
I like my Amsteel also, especially when you can roll it up like an extension cord and throw it.
2010 with 37" hooves, controlled by numerous Thuren parts and Thuren Custom King 2.5's (Moved to a new home)
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
Re: Delrin rollers for factory winch
The PN for the rollers are...
5143198-AA Horizontal roller kit (requires 2 ea at $20.05 each)
5143199-AA Vertical roller kit (requires 2 ea at $6.43 each)
Shipping was $13.95
They are still available still but by special order only. They come with the pin, 2 bushings, e-clip and the roller.
My horizontal roller kits just came in today. My vertical rollers were undamaged so I didn't order any.
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5143198-AA Horizontal roller kit (requires 2 ea at $20.05 each)
5143199-AA Vertical roller kit (requires 2 ea at $6.43 each)
Shipping was $13.95
They are still available still but by special order only. They come with the pin, 2 bushings, e-clip and the roller.
My horizontal roller kits just came in today. My vertical rollers were undamaged so I didn't order any.
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My build 2009 3G
http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2305
Beginners reading list:
1) Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment – 354 pages http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/the_a ... shment.pdf
2) Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton 165 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... tion-5.pdf
3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
4) Wall Street and FDR by Antony C. Sutton 177 pages http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
5) Dishonest Money by Joseph Plummer 175 pages http://joeplummer.com/dishonest-money.html
6) None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen 197 pages http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/libra ... y_1971.pdf
David Rockefeller: Memoirs (The story of traitors)
http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_November/ ... rnment.pdf
http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2305
Beginners reading list:
1) Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment – 354 pages http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/the_a ... shment.pdf
2) Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton 165 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... tion-5.pdf
3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
4) Wall Street and FDR by Antony C. Sutton 177 pages http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
5) Dishonest Money by Joseph Plummer 175 pages http://joeplummer.com/dishonest-money.html
6) None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen 197 pages http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/libra ... y_1971.pdf
David Rockefeller: Memoirs (The story of traitors)
http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_November/ ... rnment.pdf