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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:44 pm

So I'll be honest, I've envied you 3rd Gen Guys with a Snorkel for a while because they look cool as hell. Now that AEV is coming out with a Snorkel for us 4th Gen Folks I've been doing some thinking. Besides the fact that it looks cool, what are the pro' sand con's of the Snorkel. I'm open for all thoughts, opinions, facts, and theories of the Snorkel.
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Re: Let's Talk Snorkels

Post by jeep_boy02 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:53 pm

Fording capabilities

Cleaner air

Cooler air

At speed a possible "ram air" effect? Idk, haven't seen the research on that.

Looks +++

Cons... possible anchor for trees, limbs and rock walls.

Cutting and drilling into fender and A pillar.

?price?

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Post by Timgco » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:41 pm

Cons:
Trail debris like to grab them. Since we're wide already, there's a good chance it could get ripped off.
Installation may be a bad subject for those not willing to cut.
Once it's on, it's on, unless you replace the fender or hood you just cut.
Hate it or love it looks.

Pros:
You'll have a nice air box to run all of your breather tubes to. This will increase your fording depth (depending on our electrical).
If you use the self cleaning Pre-Filter assembly (vs the air ram/ scoop) you will be able to suck in cleaner air up higher vs from down lower where you stir up most dirt. This option also separates dust and water.
Love it or hate it looks.

On a side note, how do our door seals hold up to fording water? The only vehicle I forded water over the hood was in my H2 on 37's. The water stayed out of the interior 100%, but the air filter and the fuse box were at the same height. Guess what needed to be dried out. lol. Our fuse panels sit up pretty high, however, if someone were to drive through that bow wave, I'm not sure how it would do.
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Post by Hemi46 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:15 am

What about on rainy days? Curious about rain getting in. I have been thinking of a snorkel also. My truck is a daily driver.
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Re: Let's Talk Snorkels

Post by Graveltravels » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:33 am

Speaking from experience, with my Jeep, even driving in the hardest rains, I haven't collected much water into the snorkel. You'll always get a bit, but never have I gotten more than a trace. The pre-filter bowl would be the best bet, I think, in terms of general livability. Then the waters not driving in, and the open mouth isn't dragging in every drop and bug that comes along.

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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:57 am

I'll be perfectly honest, I really don't see me having a huge need for one as I don't foresee any water crossings in my future. I've just always thought they looked pretty cool. My biggest concern is having branches and crap hang up on the snorkel when I'm in the woods, and in a huge snow storm is it going to get plugged?
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Post by Graveltravels » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:26 am

My snorkel definitely takes a beating in the bush. So many of our trails out west of home are overgrown badly, from lack of use. But even after being hit by 2"+ branches, it hasn't broken, or been knocked off. The one I have for my jeep is the rugged ridge. Haven't had it for a full year yet, so no big snow storm driving, I'll let you know how it holds up.

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Post by jeep_boy02 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:01 pm

Thats decent news Gravel, especially since it's rugged ridge... their products are so hit and miss. I hate their recovery equipment but love the "tread lightly" floor mats.

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Post by Graveltravels » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:34 pm

Oh, I hated those!! I switched to Weathertec, until I just deleted the carpets all together!! No carpet, no floor mat, shop vac friendly!! ;)

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Post by GunniPWguy » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:57 pm

Timgco wrote:Cons:
Trail debris like to grab them. Since we're wide already, there's a good chance it could get ripped off.
Installation may be a bad subject for those not willing to cut.
Once it's on, it's on, unless you replace the fender or hood you just cut.
Hate it or love it looks.

Pros:
You'll have a nice air box to run all of your breather tubes to. This will increase your fording depth (depending on our electrical).
If you use the self cleaning Pre-Filter assembly (vs the air ram/ scoop) you will be able to suck in cleaner air up higher vs from down lower where you stir up most dirt. This option also separates dust and water.
Love it or hate it looks.

On a side note, how do our door seals hold up to fording water? The only vehicle I forded water over the hood was in my H2 on 37's. The water stayed out of the interior 100%, but the air filter and the fuse box were at the same height. Guess what needed to be dried out. lol. Our fuse panels sit up pretty high, however, if someone were to drive through that bow wave, I'm not sure how it would do.
I went through a pretty deep water crossing just recently and didn't experience any leaking door seals. Did experience the smartbar blues though. :doh: Mine is greased, siliconed, and fluid filmed and it still threw a serv 4wd light for a while after the stream crossing. Went off after it had a chance to dry out. Need a snorkel for the smaartbar!
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Post by SheepdogOutdoorsman » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:00 pm

Just spray it with FlexSeal!
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Post by GunniPWguy » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:48 pm

:rofl: That's the ticket! :rofl: If it can fix a boat that gets blasted with cannonballs it surely ought to be able to seal the smartbar!!
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Post by lastmanalliance » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:15 pm

GunniPWguy wrote:
Timgco wrote:Cons:
Trail debris like to grab them. Since we're wide already, there's a good chance it could get ripped off.
Installation may be a bad subject for those not willing to cut.
Once it's on, it's on, unless you replace the fender or hood you just cut.
Hate it or love it looks.

Pros:
You'll have a nice air box to run all of your breather tubes to. This will increase your fording depth (depending on our electrical).
If you use the self cleaning Pre-Filter assembly (vs the air ram/ scoop) you will be able to suck in cleaner air up higher vs from down lower where you stir up most dirt. This option also separates dust and water.
Love it or hate it looks.

On a side note, how do our door seals hold up to fording water? The only vehicle I forded water over the hood was in my H2 on 37's. The water stayed out of the interior 100%, but the air filter and the fuse box were at the same height. Guess what needed to be dried out. lol. Our fuse panels sit up pretty high, however, if someone were to drive through that bow wave, I'm not sure how it would do.
I went through a pretty deep water crossing just recently and didn't experience any leaking door seals. Did experience the smartbar blues though. :doh: Mine is greased, siliconed, and fluid filmed and it still threw a serv 4wd light for a while after the stream crossing. Went off after it had a chance to dry out. Need a snorkel for the smaartbar!
I've been up over my headlights in water with my 2005. I didn't get any water in the cab but my smart bar kinda went hay wire just like yours haha. I agree on the snorkel for the smart bar lmao
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Post by Mr.Smith » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:41 pm

Who makes them for 3rd gens?

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Post by 05PWrockcrawler » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:44 pm

Airflow out of Australia. Got one on mine!
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Post by Mr.Smith » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:37 pm

Holding up to hits? Any install tips?

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Post by RustyPW » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:21 am

Got one on mine too. :mrgreen: So far, so good. Had branches beat on it with no problems. Protects my GoPro. When installing. Take your time. Align up the pattern, and tape it down.
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Post by adeluca73 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:24 am

RustyPW wrote:Got one on mine too. :mrgreen: So far, so good. Had branches beat on it with no problems. Protects my GoPro. When installing. Take your time. Align up the pattern, and tape it down.
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Post by Throttle 8 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:56 am

How do they do in a major blizzard of snow?
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Post by TrueCowboy426 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:33 pm

I'm curious as well how they do in snow, as I know for a fact how bad the factory air box is in heavy snow. In defense of the factory system I was going thru some pretty deep drifts, but this is the first vehicle I've driven that ingested that much snow (for whatever reason my 3rd gen 1/2tons never did this). Not sure how a snorkel would have handled it as there was a lot of snow going over the hood and roof too.
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Post by RustyPW » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:35 pm

Throttle 8 wrote:How do they do in a major blizzard of snow?
Never had a problem in the snow so far. Had snow fill about half the opening one time when the PW sat overnight.
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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:44 pm

TrueCowboy426 wrote:I'm curious as well how they do in snow, as I know for a fact how bad the factory air box is in heavy snow. In defense of the factory system I was going thru some pretty deep drifts, but this is the first vehicle I've driven that ingested that much snow (for whatever reason my 3rd gen 1/2tons never did this). Not sure how a snorkel would have handled it as there was a lot of snow going over the hood and roof too.
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TrueCowboy426 wrote:I'm curious as well how they do in snow, as I know for a fact how bad the factory air box is in heavy snow. In defense of the factory system I was going thru some pretty deep drifts, but this is the first vehicle I've driven that ingested that much snow (for whatever reason my 3rd gen 1/2tons never did this). Not sure how a snorkel would have handled it as there was a lot of snow going over the hood and roof too.
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Post by TrueCowboy426 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:41 pm

Haha, yeah was probably doing more than I should have been, but isn't that what these trucks are for? :rockon: I knew I had a problem early on, as I started loosing power, and the AFR was going way rich. I was shocked too with how packed it was in there when I opened it up, and how much it tried to suck the filter into the motor. I'd like to get a snorkel but I'm not overly fond of making myself stand out even more than my trucks already do.

And I for one am looking forward to this winter again!!!! Bring on the snow.
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