Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

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Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by pdavey » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:12 pm

Well, I knew I was on borrowed time with my idler pulley's but I had to push it a few more days because it stopped chirping the other morning. Well should have listened to my gut and changed them at home. Instead on the way home from dinner tonight on the interstate (288 for those in Richmond), my lower idler pulley gave up the ghost.

Here are a few pictures for you. I changed both idler pulleys on the side of the road and put on a new belt. What fun :)

I do have to say the new ones from Advance are a much better design.
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Shredded Idler Pulley. When it goes, it really goes.
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Spaghetti Belt. It's whats for dinner.
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New Pulley is a much better design then the old one.
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All back together and home in the garage.
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Performance Mods:
  • Comp 260 Camshaft, Upgraded Valve Springs, Forged Push Rods, JBA Shorties, Airaid Cold Air Intake, Gibson Dual Cat Exhast (Side Swept), National Speed Custom Tune
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  • Kenwood KVT-719 w/ Garmin Navigation and Kenwood Rear Camera, JL Stealth Sub
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  • Carli Upper "Bomb Proof" Ball Joints, NAPA Lower Ball Joints, Thuren Adj Track Bar, Thuren Adjusted Fox Damper, T-Style Steering Upgrade, New Power Steering Pump, 2012 Power Steering Motor Upgrade, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Rear Shocks -Stage 1, Thuren Off-set Control Arms, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Front Shocks -Stage 2, 35x12.50x17 Nitto Trail Grappler (previous tires Cooper STT), Carli Front Dif Gard,
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Re: Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by Ken G. » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:15 pm

Glad you got it fixed quick and had the stuff with you! How often do those things go to crap?
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Post by pdavey » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:17 pm

Seems any time they are subject to muddy water. Also you will need this as well. The service manual has the wrong diagram in it. Thank God for my tablet and internet on my phone, otherwise I might still be struggling with the belt :)



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Other Mods:
  • Kenwood KVT-719 w/ Garmin Navigation and Kenwood Rear Camera, JL Stealth Sub
Suspension/Protection Mods:
  • Carli Upper "Bomb Proof" Ball Joints, NAPA Lower Ball Joints, Thuren Adj Track Bar, Thuren Adjusted Fox Damper, T-Style Steering Upgrade, New Power Steering Pump, 2012 Power Steering Motor Upgrade, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Rear Shocks -Stage 1, Thuren Off-set Control Arms, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Front Shocks -Stage 2, 35x12.50x17 Nitto Trail Grappler (previous tires Cooper STT), Carli Front Dif Gard,
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Re: Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by Ken G. » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:22 pm

Thanks! Well, so far my truck has been fine, except that the loose gas cap idiot light went on, followed by the malfunction indicator light. Otherwise, the truck is doing great mechanically. Getting the lights taken care of at the dealer tomorrow, since it's still under warrantee. I guess a new gas cap and a computer reset.
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2011 PW. AFE Full Metal Power Stage 2 CAI. Readylift T6 Billet leveling kit. Yakima Load Warrior bed rack on crossbars (reinforced). Hi-Lift w/ Baja-base, Powertank PT-10 w/ Monster Regulator, shovel, and axe mounted on bed rack. Radioshack CB. 5 x 35" Nitto Trail Grappler MTs on PW wheels. UWS truck bed box with tools and recovery gear. Bed-mounted Billet 4x4 Fuel and H2O Jerry cans w/carriers. Rausch Creek Limited Edition Modified Ranch Hand Grille Guard (currently undergoing radical surgery and modification). Carli front diff guard. Custom rock sliders and custom rear diff skid plate fabbed by Iron Pig Off Road.

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Post by GunniPWguy » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:33 pm

That is some good info. Thanks. Sorry you had to experience it first hand. :geek:
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Post by vanished » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:45 pm

Been there... done that... twice! both were with my old pw. I keep spares in my toolbox now and as it was already said muddy water does it every time. :( I even had it happen once in my Durango after off roading...

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Re: Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by 06powerwagon06 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:17 am

Remember mine was chirping after the saturday run at Rausch. That was one of the main reasons that I didn't want to go out on sunday. Thankfully I made it home and got them changed before one of them exploded. I'm definitely keeping spares in my tool box from now on!! Great job on the side of the road fix Peter!!
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Re: Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by MSparks909 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:45 am

My idler exploded on me last year and it too took out the serpentine belt. I've learned that after the pulley squeaks for a while then suddenly goes quiet that it's about to explode...wish I would have had spare parts with me that time. I replaced my idlers up in PA before the drive back. I've still got a squeak somewhere in the belt system. It's either the alternator or AC compressor :roll:
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Re: Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by pdavey » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:01 am

06powerwagon06 wrote:Remember mine was chirping after the saturday run at Rausch. That was one of the main reasons that I didn't want to go out on sunday. Thankfully I made it home and got them changed before one of them exploded. I'm definitely keeping spares in my tool box from now on!! Great job on the side of the road fix Peter!!
Yeah I have a second set I purchased to keep in my too box too. I just need to get a back-up belt. Glad you made it home before it exploded. Really glad it is such a simple fix.

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Performance Mods:
  • Comp 260 Camshaft, Upgraded Valve Springs, Forged Push Rods, JBA Shorties, Airaid Cold Air Intake, Gibson Dual Cat Exhast (Side Swept), National Speed Custom Tune
Other Mods:
  • Kenwood KVT-719 w/ Garmin Navigation and Kenwood Rear Camera, JL Stealth Sub
Suspension/Protection Mods:
  • Carli Upper "Bomb Proof" Ball Joints, NAPA Lower Ball Joints, Thuren Adj Track Bar, Thuren Adjusted Fox Damper, T-Style Steering Upgrade, New Power Steering Pump, 2012 Power Steering Motor Upgrade, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Rear Shocks -Stage 1, Thuren Off-set Control Arms, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Front Shocks -Stage 2, 35x12.50x17 Nitto Trail Grappler (previous tires Cooper STT), Carli Front Dif Gard,
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  • KC LightBar Behind Tow Hooks Mount, 2 KC Slim Driving Lights, 2 KC Offroading Lights, Weatherguard Black Steel Truck Box, Winch TPS bypass, Warn Wireless Winch Module

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Re: Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by pdavey » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:03 am

MSparks909 wrote:My idler exploded on me last year and it too took out the serpentine belt. I've learned that after the pulley squeaks for a while then suddenly goes quiet that it's about to explode...wish I would have had spare parts with me that time. I replaced my idlers up in PA before the drive back. I've still got a squeak somewhere in the belt system. It's either the alternator or AC compressor :roll:
Sounds like its time for an engine cleaning and some fluid film. Hopefully it isn't your power steering pump like VA_Wagon_Man

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Performance Mods:
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Other Mods:
  • Kenwood KVT-719 w/ Garmin Navigation and Kenwood Rear Camera, JL Stealth Sub
Suspension/Protection Mods:
  • Carli Upper "Bomb Proof" Ball Joints, NAPA Lower Ball Joints, Thuren Adj Track Bar, Thuren Adjusted Fox Damper, T-Style Steering Upgrade, New Power Steering Pump, 2012 Power Steering Motor Upgrade, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Rear Shocks -Stage 1, Thuren Off-set Control Arms, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Front Shocks -Stage 2, 35x12.50x17 Nitto Trail Grappler (previous tires Cooper STT), Carli Front Dif Gard,
Style/Other Mods:
  • KC LightBar Behind Tow Hooks Mount, 2 KC Slim Driving Lights, 2 KC Offroading Lights, Weatherguard Black Steel Truck Box, Winch TPS bypass, Warn Wireless Winch Module

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Re: Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by Glenn5995 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:41 pm

They do not like water. I had to replace both idler pulleys shortly after this water crossing:

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Re: Idler Pulley Failure !*@#*!

Post by VA_Wagon Man » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:45 pm

I hear you, I have to replace mine all the time. Its like its part of offroading......lol.:shock:
I'm still waiting on my Power Steering Pump to come in.

Pdavey, please make SURE you don't have any "spaghetti" wrapped around any of your other pulleys. That's exactly how my PS pump got ruined. It was wrapped so tight around the backside, I just didn't see it. Get a flashlight and make triple sure there isn't any belt left anywhere........ :secret:
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