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#BastardWagon Build

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:32 pm
by nts007
Alright guys it's time to start logging this new venture!! This build is going to be updated on Instagram fairly constantly as progress gets headway. #dpw37 #bastardwagon #budgetbuild

Alright let's talk goals

I've always wanted to do a near prerunner/ rock crawler/ hunting truck. Pretty much go anywhere at any time.

Now this is going to be somewhat of a budget build to an extent but at the same time it's gotta be good

Suspension is planned 18-20" rear and 16-18" front. But at ride height no higher than a 3" suspension setup

Rear is going to be a 4 link triangulated

Front will be a long arm possibly triangulated

Steering will be most likely be standard with hydro assist unless full triangulated <---for cost reasons. For now.

Power? As much as possible

Rear will be a spool and front will be a actuated locker of some kind

Tires will be 37"

Winch of course!!

And the truck must be as purely simple and as fun as possible!!!

I have been planning this for some time and have always wanted to do an old school big block powered truck
I picked up a 2500 reg cab long box 2007 for $500. It has no drivetrain other than the axles. Which are in ok condition. Which is fine because I have a set of 08 axles in excellent condition. And I have enough parts lying around to rebuild most of 2 trucks. But it's a base model with crank windows and it will be perfect!!
The engine is going to be a '75 Ford 460.....hold on. What!!!! Yea!! Why??? It was free. Well it was given to me 25 years ago by my father. In which I replaced the water pump, rad, thermostat, did an oil change and parked it with less than 20 miles of blowing down the country roads. Then I parked it and lost the keys. So why??? It's a big block!! And why not. Ford used to be good. Before 1980. Plus it comes with a c6 3spd tranny. With a 1:1 3rd gear. I can work with that. I also picked up an all mechanical Holley 750 carb and a fuel regulator. Why else? If this fits and runs and drives....it's easy to make 500 hp and 500ft/lbs. plus after 25years of sitting and shitty gas it started!!!! Easy to fix and maintain. I'm in
So what's next? Well lots of tube, rear coilover cantilever suspension (to preserve the box) and of course all the major regular issues.

I'm looking at either finding a way to install the nv273 tcase or.... A divorced axletech t600 from #western_canadian_rockwell

I'm going to stay with the 3.73 gear ratio from the diesel as the math using a 37" tire is equavalant to the original 28" tire with a 2.75 axle that the 460 was mated to.

Now comes more fun. This donor truck is a long box... But I have.. And extra short box from a quad cab that's a little dented and has a bunch of bullet holes (speed holes) in it. But it's still in decent shape. Being that I'm doing a link in the rear I have the chance to shorten the wheel base. <----let me know opinions on this one.

Alright enough with the talking. Here's some pictures to get it started. This project isn't going to happen overnight but it will happen. And the diesel build will also continue. And don't worry. No cheby parts :lol: :lol:

Ideas guys. I'm all ears.

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:52 pm
by olyelr
Any progress?!

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:44 pm
by nts007
In a sense yes!! I just bought it a new home! And been accumulating parts. Working with damagewagon on rear link design. Once I get set up in the shop better the truck will start coming apart. It's going to get exciting! Thanks for the post bump

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:55 am
by Colibri
I’m so excited for this build!!!! Can’t wait to see some progress sir!

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:36 pm
by nts007
Got back my set of general grabbers from my dad who's been burning them off on his cummins now for a couple summers. I just wanted my rims back. Carli got some decent Carli parts to get started. Phase one will be a 2"ish carli kit using my old 7100s. This is just for testing of the drivetrain. Once it's all bolted up and working well it's coming back apart for.......links and coil overs!! Yea that's happening. Lots and lots to go but it's not a pipe dream anymore

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:20 pm
by nts007
Slowly getting the shop together. Dealing with 50years of dirt n dust. Lots of new lighting coming. Also the 35's are almost installed on the bastard haha. Hopefully this next week I'll have it in its new home

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:58 pm
by gun45boat
helluva nice shop man!!!!!

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:46 pm
by nts007
gun45boat wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:58 pm
helluva nice shop man!!!!!
Thanks dude! I'm just beyond happy having a warm dry place to work now. Too many years laying on my back in the snow.

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:28 pm
by nts007
Small update. Bastard is coming to its new home soon. Been cleaning and upgrading the shop. Installed half the new lighting. Huge difference!! Picture doesn't do it justice. Replacing 8 halogen 500 watt lights with 4 led 150 watt high bays. Only 2 done. Wow.

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:19 pm
by NovA ProspekT
I was gonna give you shit about the Ferd motor, but it's free so what the hell...

Glad to see you finally got a shop, looks like you've got plenty of room for expansion! Did you put that up yourself?

I'd definitely recommend a roll-cage and proper safety gear if you plan on doing alot of crazy, high-speed stuff. I'd probably keep the long-box too, maybe just bob it.
Can't wait to see how this all comes together. :cheers:

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:43 pm
by DamageWagon
I know someone that makes weld-it-yourself cages for the 3rd gen Dodges. This truck is getting a cage for sure. Suspension is a hard thing to pick on these trucks, and I blame Thuren!! He makes so many good parts, and then when you want to get all warm and fuzzy Don has a few ‘secret menu’ items that never see the light of day that can really get your truck on the fast track. It’s to the point that links are almost not even necessary and can be reserved for purely race-only application. Even the Taquache Motorsports Truck is running leafs from a don and that’s a full race truck!

Re: #BastardWagon Build

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:13 am
by nts007
Can’t say no to a free running engine from the olden days. The shop used to be a lumber yard so it has plenty of space. I’m only using half of it for my “shop” the rest os for the business. I’ve been trying to bang out mods and parts for the diesel wagon to make Moab this year so I haven’t gotten the bastard over here yet. But I have been slowly cleaning and organizing. Getting in trouble all the time since I’m “never home” anymore. Sacrifices right