"Frankenwagon" short and sweet.

[2wagons1driveway]

Looks like you need 30" shocks on that floppy rear 2wag lol. At this point a swing arm coil over is in your future

lol ya I'm thinking 18" stroke shocks would be good tho... 20" of wheel travel would be mint


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Talk to Don... He has 2.5" Shortie 18". I would however skip a step or two and do the cantilever setup, again talk to Don. You have tossed so much money into the dumpster on shocks that I think you need to do either a cantilever or a bed cage setup.

ya man that's the plan bed cage I think will be easier to tune and less moving parts for winter to wreck honestly.




Had some carnage today. Hit a 2' vertical wall in a ditch that I didn't know was there. Kinda stopped me dead then launched me into the air and then sideways for 50' lol blow two method race wheels and ruined a toyo my cause the method wheel blew so bad it actually piled into the toyo sidewall and bead and pulled the steel chords out... Glad I had boogie bumps honestly saved my ass from splitting an axle or blowing ball joints I think. I was doing about 35-45mph was moving way to fast to stop in time and not fast enough to jump right over it.

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[2wagons1driveway]

Also ovaled the Thuren drag link lower heim out ALOT and possibly bent main TRE of passenger side and it also has some play in it... Lol so I'll be busy. Also pulled my damn air reel off !

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[Stickman]

Holy cow, that speed is going to get you in a lot of trouble it seems like. Lucky you didn't bend anything major with the rim having that kind of damage.

[Will]

Haha, damn, I know now not to get Methods. Hutchinson's??

[nts007]

Yea will. No china brand rims lol. Lee!!! Holy hell. Roll cage time buddy.

[Graveltravels]

Hutchinsons would be my choice. But man, are they pricey up here!


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[Will]

If you wanna play, you gotta pay. Stock wheels or Hutchinson's. Haha

[2wagons1driveway]

I think I'll do trail readies next and go with a bead look or a bead lock they really seem to take a beating on the diesel trucks in the desert. I wish 4wp sold them so I could get that killer extreme warranty lol which in glad I have on the methods! I don't think any wheel would have done made it would have flat spotted and truthfully screwed me either way because just a small amount of bend it will lock the wheel to the caliper like it did my right rear !

the one on the bottom face down has a 1" bend and is cracked as well lol the top rim is the front or what's left of it hahaa


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[2wagons1driveway]

on the other hand the weekend was awsome!

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[nts007]

That looks like a lot of fun

[NovA ProspekT]

Sweet truck, looks like you've been having too much fun with it. I must admit, I like your style.

I second the cage, safety first!

[2wagons1driveway]

Cage would be a good addition just can't justify limiting the practicality of it now... Cage is a huge pain plus no airbag deployments might not be good for a street truck... Maybe an exo eventually

What's everyone's opinions on bead lock wheels? Worth the "cool factor"
And "not so cool price" ?

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[Will]

Were the Methods cast aluminum?

[2wagons1driveway]

Yes sir!


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[Reloaderguy]

25% discount is ridiculous for that kind of failure. Keep those pictures posted on Instagram, I bet they'll want to replace them eventually.

[Colibri]

Beadlocks aren't warranted for most people, you on the other hand probably ought to have them lol. Yes they're nice for crawling at single digit pressure if that's your thing, but where they really shine is at higher speed shenanigans. Not having to worry about rolling your tire off the rim and flipping on your lid whilst drifting around a dirt corner screaming "trophy truck!!!" Is a great feeling

[azracer]

Methods look good but the strength and durability of them suck.

OEM or Robby Gordon bead locks is all I would trust for you to run. There is an art to reading trails. One must learn either through trial and error or from someone who has that skill. I would not even trust my H2 wheels as they bend much easier than OEM.

http://robbygordonwheels.bigcartel.com/ ... ock-wheels



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[Will]

Looking closely at many of the "racing" beadlocks, the problem I see is they are rated between 2000 and 2500 pounds and/or they don't have the bolt pattern needed for the PW. There may be more options but one I ran across is the Centerline Wilderness Series (non beadlock) 1 piece forged T-6061 Billet rated at 3200 pounds. I'd pay close attention to the weight rating and from what I gather, a forged wheel is stronger than cast.
http://centerlinewheels.com/wheels_deta ... sw_id=1093

[2wagons1driveway]

For sure well these wheels were rated at 3200lb a wheel I think and look what happened to them! Lol these would be they're race wheel with my bolt pattern drilled out apperantly none of their race wheels have patterns drilled. I am starting to agree with the whole high speed shenanigans you can really hear those Toyos change pitch when your hard cornering around 18psi they really get a "ahhhh!" Howl going on lol

I am going to look into trail readies because they are only alittle more than the methods and they seem to have a much better rep. That being said NO ONE that I talk to has run the mr101... Which is supposed to be a trophy truck wheel.


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[Reloaderguy]

Most of the standard KMC XDs are rated over 3600lbs but are still cast. Fuel and KMC make forged wheels but they're pretty expensive.

[2wagons1driveway]

Ya I know.... And heavy as fuck... Being forged also.


Just a bit more to add here pressures do play a large roll in this failure me being at 18psi in the rear and 19psi on the front was not nearly enough for this style of driving and that big of an obstacle. I did not give the wheel that much of a chance as an example a trophy truck which is 6000lbs runs at 32psi cold to start and gets up to about 38psi apperantly during a race. And the p.wagon being heavier than that should at least run those pressures etc. the only thing that gets me about the methods is that I've heard two of them having bad failures on the street with their bead lock wheels on OUR trucks.... :/ trail ready has a much better reputation


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[2wagons1driveway]

Going with synergy HD steering set up. I will be test dummy for it to put anyone's worries at rest- reason being is I love the Thuren fab set up and heims are cheap but:

Long build time to get it and I am in a time crunch for these parts

Looks factory so less trouble from cops if I have to get a road side inspection

Joints are cheap

Heat treat main tre supposed to be way stronger then the stock solid bar.

All tie rod ends are the same and are 40$ US apperantly.

I can keep spares in truck

It's sealed and greasable.

Supports 14" of travel apperantly so I should be fine at 12"

Convenience of 4 wheel parts having it

As well as the three year extreme warranty can be put on it at time of purchase.

I will still probably end up going Thuren fab system in the future just because 3/8" thick is tits but for now this will have to do!


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[nts007]

You sure your not just gonna trade her off and start again on a new one??? Lol. Maybe just buy a new dd at this point.

Anyway I'm curious about that steering setup. Mine is still holdin up but eventually it needs to be changed.

[2wagons1driveway]

I would have just stayed with the Thuren drag link and factory tre s but they are toast (factory ones) and because they are updated TRE's they are big money to replace apperantly ...:/ can't find aftermarket around me and oem is 400$ for one


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[2wagons1driveway]

ordered some
Of these bitches! 350$ US shipped! 47" extended height!


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