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Post by AceMan » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:37 pm

Braided lines? Hmm. Never thought of that.

Any suggestions for a brand name? Any of our vendors in our forum sell them?

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Post by gun45boat » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:36 pm

I forgot where I got my "kit" If I remember correctly, I think I paid $160 +/- I will look through my receipts to find out. But yes,,, made a big difference in pedal feel AND braking effect,, Honestly I bet I felt about a 15% improvement.. The stock rubber lines that run from the "hardlines" from the frame are rubber, and "give/flex" when you apply pressure to them. The Stainless Braided lines are Stout, and don't "expand" under pressure, so when you stomp on that left pedal, the results are less spongy, firmer feel, and with less "give" in the line results are a greatly improved braking all around. I def. recommend going that route to improve your braking.

I will let you know as soon as I find the receipt, but I am sure there is info on Google for the kit, I will say the front was easy to replace off the frame rails, and the rear came with everything from the junction block to the calipers.

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Re: 2006 Power Wagon Build

Post by AceMan » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:59 pm

Thanks. I'm trying to search, but it's tough from a phone and all the possible links, and some places don't have anything for a 2500.

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Post by cell4soul » Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:12 pm

gun45boat wrote:I forgot where I got my "kit" If I remember correctly, I think I paid $160 +/- I will look through my receipts to find out. But yes,,, made a big difference in pedal feel AND braking effect,, Honestly I bet I felt about a 15% improvement.. The stock rubber lines that run from the "hardlines" from the frame are rubber, and "give/flex" when you apply pressure to them. The Stainless Braided lines are Stout, and don't "expand" under pressure, so when you stomp on that left pedal, the results are less spongy, firmer feel, and with less "give" in the line results are a greatly improved braking all around. I def. recommend going that route to improve your braking.

I will let you know as soon as I find the receipt, but I am sure there is info on Google for the kit, I will say the front was easy to replace off the frame rails, and the rear came with everything from the junction block to the calipers.

Good advice, thanks.
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Re: 2006 Power Wagon Build

Post by AceMan » Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:46 pm

Thank you!

I chose, "Dodge Ram 2500 4WD 2003-2011 4"-6" Lift - Stainless Steel Brake Line Kit" (DODGE12FR04)

But what do you choose for Length over stock (4", 5" or 6")?

I would assume to keep it as stainless steel to choose "Clear" for the color.

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Post by Mr.Smith » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:05 pm

How big of a lift are you going? Clear, black, blue, green...they're all stainless, this is just the color of the outer layer for aesthetics.

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Post by AceMan » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:55 pm

I'm putting on a set of Carli front springs, which supposedly gives you about a 3" lift, stock rear with Thuren's shackle for an extra inch. Stock arms.

The 0" to 3" seems pushing the limit. Wouldn't it be better for the next level at 4" to 6" or do you think that's too much slack?

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Post by Mr.Smith » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:23 pm

I've the same setup & 3" is plenty...pick a color & you'll be set. Too much & they'll rub the tires/tire chains/control arms/etc. when turning or during suspension cycling, as well as be susceptible to snagging on obstacles/debris. Also you will still have a slight soft pedal, due to the fact that from the rear caliper to the axle hard line "soft"/hoses still need replacement, but you can get those built as well. It'll consist of cutting & reflanging the axle hard line, or finding an adaptor/collar to join the two. A stock Ram 2500 & the PW share the same length brake lines...FYI.

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Mr.Smith wrote:I've the same setup & 3" is plenty...pick a color & you'll be set. Too much & they'll rub the tires/tire chains/control arms/etc. when turning or during suspension cycling, as well as be susceptible to snagging on obstacles/debris. Also you will still have a slight soft pedal, due to the fact that from the rear caliper to the axle hard line "soft"/hoses still need replacement, but you can get those built as well. It'll consist of cutting & reflanging the axle hard line, or finding an adaptor/collar to join the two. A stock Ram 2500 & the PW share the same length brake lines...FYI.
Thanks for the info. They should offer the axle hose replacements. I'm not able to cut or build hoses. Do they sell them anywhere? I figured get it all done in one shot, if possible, so all lines are stainless if not hard lines.

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Post by AceMan » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:12 am

I guess I'm a little confused. I have to crawl under the truck to see what hoses there are in the rear. Looking at this link with the parts break down for a 2010, but I have a 2006, and they should be the same, assuming so,(http://www.factorychryslerparts.com/sho ... odel=15505), it looks like there are two additional hoses on each side, besides the one that Crown gives you in the kit. Now why don't they just offer everything in one shot?

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Post by Mr.Smith » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:19 am

No Idea, other than mainly allowing for taller suspension on lifted vehicles...
There are X2 front hoses(from calipers to frame hard lines), X1 rear hose(from axle hard line to frame hard line) supplied by Crown. Then there are X2 rear hoses(from caliper to axle hard line) not supplied by Crown. The rear caliper hoses are press clamped to the rear axle hard lines as one unit each side. You would have to replace each from the caliper to the axle T block(easiest option). Or cut & reflange the hard line & install with a correct fitting to adapt the new hose to it(exactly like the front). Call them & they'll give you an idea of how to go about accomplishing this, or send them your rear lines & let them build it for you.

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Re: 2006 Power Wagon Build

Post by AceMan » Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:40 pm

Ok. Thanks, I appreciate your help!

I'll just order the kit and go from there.

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Post by gun45boat » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:12 pm

I might go with the longer lines, just in case you think you are going to go bigger lift etc. You never know, you might want to go with a 6" lift and 40's :( :( :( You can always just tie them out of the way..

I know this will not go with your build, since mine is a little different, but it is VERY easy to cut you factory line from the frame and flange it to work with a braided system. ANY racing shop in you area with have most the parts you need for a "conversion" ie: lines in all sorts of lengths, fittings, 90's, 45's caps etc.etc.

I used all Areoquip parts and lines. it is easy to cut and flange from the frame feeder, then just tap and go:) I think I have about $90.00 in all the parts and pieces to make mine work with all the flexing that the 4 link will do. Pedal feel is VERY good.

The rear lines have not been finished yet (clamps) to make them look purdy.. because I am still waiting on the damn shocks to arrive :angry: :angry: :angry:
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Re: 2006 Power Wagon Build

Post by AceMan » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:22 pm

Looks good. I'll just stick with the stainless braided and stock axle lines for now.

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Re: 2006 Power Wagon Build

Post by 2wagons1driveway » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:53 pm

Carli makes some nice brake line kits * in case you haven't found any you like. Think their 180$ from George at 8lug


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Re: 2006 Power Wagon Build

Post by gun45boat » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:31 am

https://klmperformance.com/product-cate ... ake-lines/

Brake line kit that I used.. You can build them to spec for only $157

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Post by cell4soul » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:09 am

My 20006 PW has just turned about 62,000 miles, so I figured it was time to do some preventative maintenance. Dynatrac ball joints installed, new wheel hub unit bearings, replaced pinion seals and Royal Purple in the both diffs. I really wanted to go with a free spin kit up front, but couldn't justify nor afford the extra cost. My bank account is once again tapped, but worth the peace of mind.
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Post by cell4soul » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:46 pm

The truck drives amazing and I'm really glad I dropped the cash. Before the repairs I had a noise coming from the driver side wheel at low speeds. Now that the repairs are done, no more noise. I am pretty sure the unit bearings were ready for replacement. Everything feels much tighter on the front end. Money well spent.
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Post by 2wagons1driveway » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:29 pm

nice! Tight front ends are good front ends


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2006 Power Wagon Build

Post by cell4soul » Sat May 23, 2015 6:11 pm

I finally mounted my 37" spare tire. Sheepdog Outdoorsman found a set of 4 power wagon wheels for sale on Craigslist and didn't need all 4, so I bought one for my spare. I mounted the spare vertically in the bed, up against the cab, using rivet nuts, I bolts and a tire hold down strap from Poly Performance. I also mounted my High Lift jack. I used rivet nuts into the bed of the truck and bolted it through the bottom of the jack and one of the holes in the cast iron part. The jack and spare tire are both solid and have no movement. Here are some pics.
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Post by 2wagons1driveway » Sat May 23, 2015 6:58 pm

Nice!


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