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gun45boat · Post by **gun45boat** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:07 am

Man,,,,, That turned out AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Great Job

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:40 pm

Ya that honestly looks awsome will great way to stand out!! As if the 37's and stock height wasn't enough

this project is gunna be a stunner good idea with the intake FYI. I agree if she ain't sealed 100% your better off with the factory at least it's indirect to underhood water spray etc unlike that one may have been!

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2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Thu May 14, 2015 11:42 am

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hey will when you put your control arms in did you have any issues with the rf upper bolt close to the manifold? Going to do control arms on another truck soon and I seem to remember having issues getting my upper bolt out (had to cut it or remove exhaust system?)

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FirerescuePW · Post by **FirerescuePW** » Thu May 14, 2015 12:59 pm

I just did control arms on mine. You need to drop the exhaust from the manifolds to get the bolts out of the rear of the top arms. It shouldn't be a problem. You may need new bolts. I did not.
Don't be tempted to install the bolts backwards for easier removal later. What I have read says the bolts should only be used as installed at the factory. Something about being designed to carry the load only one way.

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2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Thu May 14, 2015 5:03 pm

I believe that or that during suspension compression an exposed thread may cause some havoc on tires or something

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Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 15, 2015 7:12 am

As picky as the exhaust has been (broken manifold bolts 3 times) the last thing I wanted to do was touch that. I cut the bolt with a sawzall and installed a new one backwards and have not had a single issue.

There is not possible way what so ever for the tire to come in contact with any of the bolts and that's the only bolt that doesn't have the threads outward from the factory...

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 15, 2015 7:29 am

This was in the middle of plastidip but you can see the clearance and no way to hit those bolts, don't you just love how those 37's fill up the fender well?

stubiePW · Post by **stubiePW** » Fri May 15, 2015 8:39 am

You pretty much have me convinced to go 37s this summer. I love the look. At full stuff do they rub the fender at all?

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 15, 2015 8:57 am

stubiePW wrote:You pretty much have me convinced to go 37s this summer. I love the look. At full stuff do they rub the fender at all?

The closest points of contact are when the wheels are straight. When the tires were new I had them barely rub the fender flare on the back of the front fender and the fender flare on the front of the rear fender but that was full compression and barely rubbing. At about half turn, the front just would touch the inner fender well on the front side. I simply drilled two holes in the fender well and zip tied them forward towards the front bumper. took 5 minutes. You can pull the lower part of the front fender well forward almost two inches. Most importantly stick with a tire that is no more than 36.8" in diameter and a section width of 12.9". If you go with a taller tire, you will have some unwanted rubbing going on and even as far as having to move the rear axle. I love these tires, they perform really well all around. If you want a MT , the Hankook Dynapro is the same size.

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Fri May 15, 2015 9:02 am

Were doing some control arms on kens wagon shortly and 37's maybe bfg ko2's like mine... In thinking a new bolt would be much easier then touching his exhaust lol it don't look good

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Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 15, 2015 9:09 am

Here is where I pulled the fender well forward...
Before

After

Zip tied to the bracket (not the wire harness) holding wire harness, that way if I hit water it will break the ziptie as the weak point and can zip another on..

Nice concave for plenty of clearance...

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Fri May 15, 2015 9:14 am

Saweeeettt!

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Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 15, 2015 9:23 am

I misspoke earlier when i said that bolt is the onlt one from the factory that doesn't have the threads outwards, in fact it did, that's why you can't get it out because it will hit the exhaust. The new bolt (Don provides with his arms) goes in from the outside inward. I just took these pictures...

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Inside

FirerescuePW · Post by **FirerescuePW** » Fri May 15, 2015 10:15 am

I assume Don says to put it in that way? The Carli instructions say to put them in the factory direction. I couldn't see why it wouldn't work, but I didn't have time to experiment. My exhaust dropped with no problem, and it's an '05, but I think my mileage is much lower than yours.

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Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 15, 2015 10:29 am

You can't install it the other way without removing the exhaust. I don't see any difference in the direction. The shear strength of the bolt is the same either way...to add, that's why Don sends that bolt to speed up the install process and he baja jumps his with a CTD in it and I dont see a better way to test it other than that!

stubiePW · Post by **stubiePW** » Fri May 15, 2015 10:55 am

I'm looking at the Toyo r/t. I don't need a full mt but am looking for a bit more aggressive tire. I like the hybrids. It says overall diameter is 36.8 and width is 12.5

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Fri May 15, 2015 12:00 pm

Awsome thanks will!

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Will · Post by **Will** » Fri May 15, 2015 12:04 pm

Looks good on paper, only one way to find out

2011TXPowerWagon · Post by **2011TXPowerWagon** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:34 am

Hey Will, how good are those tires in loose beach sand? I have heard that less aggressive is better for sand and I am currently running the bfg and they tend to dig a lil and wheel hop gets bad at times.

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:57 am

My ko2's seemed to be okay in sandy and loose gravel. Aired down to 20psi no more wrap!

"Escalators are never really broken...their just stairs for alittle while... "

2011TXPowerWagon · Post by **2011TXPowerWagon** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:46 pm

I have noticed that airing down does help in the sand but it sure doesn't help for death wobble. I used to run at 60 to 64 psi front and back all the time and recently dropped to about 40. It is a much smoother ride in town but if I do some highway driving and hit a bump at 75 mph boy it gets scary.

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:03 pm

You must have something really work out then 11'.... Or bad tires maybe. I can run with 25psi In the front and 20psi in the back down the highway and it's smooth with the 37'sz

"Escalators are never really broken...their just stairs for alittle while... "

nts007 · Post by **nts007** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:15 am

2011TXPowerWagon wrote:I have noticed that airing down does help in the sand but it sure doesn't help for death wobble. I used to run at 60 to 64 psi front and back all the time and recently dropped to about 40. It is a much smoother ride in town but if I do some highway driving and hit a bump at 75 mph boy it gets scary.

Check tie rod ends. Both. Again. And the drag link rod ends. It's a dead horse to beat but I fought DW long enough. Ended up being those and the track bar bushings. Railway crossings scared things outta me

Will · Post by **Will** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:19 am

2011TXPowerWagon wrote:Hey Will, how good are those tires in loose beach sand? I have heard that less aggressive is better for sand and I am currently running the bfg and they tend to dig a lil and wheel hop gets bad at times.

Sorry, just now seeing this. That's the main reason I got them. Here in Florida, I have more sugar sand than anything and Don turned me on to these by saying he loves them in the dunes. I run 58psi in front and 47psi in back and dont touch them. I did air down to 25 and 20 one weekend and they did crazy good but I have no problem at all going on the beach or blasting down sandy power lines with the 58 and 47 constantly.

As for the wobble, mine finally has tried to get loose and it's because I am due for top ball joints on both sides and the track bar bushing at the frame is bad. It's in the shop today for new ball joints and there's a Thuren trackbar ready for install as well. I'm sitting right at 120K miles with all but the first 40 on 35" or taller tires and this is the first front end work that I've needed to do. I can't complain at all.

Mr.Smith · Post by **Mr.Smith** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:17 pm

^^^X2! I love these tires, installed them on my Diesel right before I sold it...awesome tire!

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