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Re: SimonandSimonBeast Build

Post by ghaugo » Sat May 02, 2020 3:55 pm

Those look great! Nice work.
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Post by FirerescuePW » Sat May 02, 2020 4:31 pm

Don't you know all blankets are for dogs???

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Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Sat May 02, 2020 4:41 pm

FirerescuePW wrote:Don't you know all blankets are for dogs???

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I was just saying that to my wife....lol.

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Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Sat May 02, 2020 4:44 pm

Thanks guys. I had to mow the grass first...so here's beer #1, and a toast to Neil for working through the Corona...virus.Image

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Post by RustyPW » Sat May 02, 2020 8:01 pm

Lookin' good. :rockon:
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Re: SimonandSimonBeast Build

Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Sat May 02, 2020 8:29 pm

RustyPW wrote:Lookin' good. :rockon:
Thanks brother! It was one of those jobs that was tough single handed, but once in a groove you realize someone else would be in the way.

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Post by FirerescuePW » Sat May 02, 2020 11:26 pm

Do those sliders require drilling of the frame, or do they clamp on like White Knuckle sliders?

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Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Sun May 03, 2020 12:58 pm

FirerescuePW wrote:Do those sliders require drilling of the frame, or do they clamp on like White Knuckle sliders?

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Clamp on. 4 connection points per slider. The flanges of the "legs" go flush to the frame. 2 grade 8 bolts per leg sandwich the frame with a plate that goes behind the frame. Bolts go above and below the frame. Here's a couple more pics... ImageImage

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Re: SimonandSimonBeast Build

Post by DamageWagon » Sat May 09, 2020 1:55 am

The trackbar is not intended to center the axle. The length of the trackbar must be set with the cool springs and bump stops removed and the frame set on the axle. If you lengthen the trackbar too much you will have physical collision between frame and axle components, generally the trackbar bracket and the coil bucket, but if you lengthened it 1.5” I’d like to see the interesting pictures you might have to share if there are other things that decide to self clearance. 39-1/8” is roughly the safest production length the bar can be. You can adjust it slightly for an individual truck, but not by much.

It is also important to note that centering of the axle does not have an important role in alignment and straightness of driving. The axle would have to be WAY out to have an effect on these things.

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Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Sat May 09, 2020 12:13 pm

At ride height it measures just about 39.75" bolt center to bolt center. So, 5/8" longer than Thuren recommendation. This brought the axle over a bit but not totally centered. It looks more like where everything sat when I first installed everything. I'll have to put it through some rigors to see if I get any clearance issues.

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Re: SimonandSimonBeast Build

Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Sat May 09, 2020 12:17 pm

Derrrr...I just realized I didn't need to say "at ride height". Let's just say it is 39.75". Lol.

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Re: SimonandSimonBeast Build

Post by DamageWagon » Sat May 09, 2020 12:22 pm

The centering of the axle will always depend on the height of the frame over the axle, so if you see the truck on a slope or with different weight distribution it will change the position of the axle. If you had everything installed and drove it and on level ground you knew where the axle was, and then later on with no major changes to anything the axle was suddenly way out, I would absolutely inspect every part affecting the trackbar to make sure things are healthy. The new trucks got an entirely new frame mount because the previous years had some break the welds and shear off.

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Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Sat May 09, 2020 1:20 pm

I was sort of thinking the same thing, but neither me or my mechanic found anything.

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Re: SimonandSimonBeast Build

Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Sun May 10, 2020 8:14 pm

One other thing I should have mentioned is that at regular ride height, my 37"x13.5" on 17"x 9" +20 mm offset rims were rubbing pretty hard on the passenger side swaybar at full lock. Since the adjustment, there is ZERO rubbing at normal ride height on anything. I don't have info when articulated, but that is pretty good news.

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Re: SimonandSimonBeast Build

Post by SimonandSimonBeast » Fri May 22, 2020 5:32 pm

Maple skid plate on the way. Just ordered Abel's locker bypass.

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