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Pedal commander

Post by Firefly1178 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:07 am

Has anyone tried one,the reviews sound great. I hate the throttle lag, especially with larger tires.

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Re: Pedal commander

Post by Bill2014 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:33 am

Check this thread starting at post 305

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Re: Pedal commander

Post by TwinStick » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:48 pm

I made up 2 wires, removed 2 intake manifold bolts, inserted the round end, put the bolt back through & tightened em up, ran the other wire end to each fender ground. Just doing that made my "DBW lag" be reduced by 80%. The theory is: our 3rd gens have plastic/composite air intake runners & the air rushing over the plastic created a static electric charge (like plastic bedliners do), & the DBW sensor is right there. By grounding the air intake, it reduces the static electric charge.
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It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.

So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy. :rockon:

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Re: Pedal commander

Post by BoldAdventure » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:16 am

The way pedal scammer works is that it takes the peddle position interrupts the signal and tells the throttle a new position. So if you depress the pedal 20% it tells the throttle you've depressed it 30%. It doesn't actually improve throttle response the way you could with a tune.

Here's the deal, you could achieve this with your foot. And to boot, once you get used to the new peddle sensitivity from it changing the positions, it won't fool you the way it does at first when you're like OMG my pedal is so much better.
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Post by TwinStick » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:00 pm

:lol: I agree, but it is "high-tech" & everyone loves "high-tech" !!! :lol:
Traded to 2019 ZR2, Red.

4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.

It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.

So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy. :rockon:

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Re: Pedal commander

Post by Dreraso » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:42 am

I run a Bullydog gauge and watch my boost in the lower gears. 1st 3-4 gears and it's well into the 20 and up to 30+lbs with partial pedal and then 4th or 5th tq conv lock up and settles the boost down to about 10 lbs and up truck pulls harder than the lower gears. At idle while fueling or whatever outside the truck, I can hear the vanes moving vi the tune of the tail pipe. I understand John plays withe vanes in the tunes. Just not sure if this is normal.Been thinking about one of these Pedal Commanders for a while and recently purchased one. Received and installed last night.
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by PWJouster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:54 am

it makes a huge improvment.

the comments about not actually increasing power, or your foot can just move faster is bologna.

it doesnt give you any more power, but it does make 50% throttle application read like 100% throttle and will help you modulate the power better when accelerating. when your on the highway and are looking for a kickdown, its right there, as opposed to a few inches away. it makes a difference.
it helps bring the downshifts sooner and at the right time.

ive had these on my jeeps and on the PW and both were helpful.
it is not a replacement for a real tune, and only helps a little as it relates to drive ability.
in any case....it helped me get to 17k without a real tune, but now Hemifever is on the way.
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by BoldAdventure » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:48 pm

PWJouster wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:54 am
it makes a huge improvment.

the comments about not actually increasing power, or your foot can just move faster is bologna.

it doesnt give you any more power, but it does make 50% throttle application read like 100% throttle and will help you modulate the power better when accelerating. when your on the highway and are looking for a kickdown, its right there, as opposed to a few inches away. it makes a difference.
it helps bring the downshifts sooner and at the right time.

ive had these on my jeeps and on the PW and both were helpful.
it is not a replacement for a real tune, and only helps a little as it relates to drive ability.
in any case....it helped me get to 17k without a real tune, but now Hemifever is on the way.
It changes the corresponding throttle to peddle position. That is a fact.

Your money is always better spent on a tune.
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by KevinABQ » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:12 pm

Who had the block of 2x4 labeled 'pedal commander' at last PWIM?
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by PWJouster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:53 pm

tune is always the best option. but at a price of the warranty.

you know when your cruising at just the wrong speed and at just the wrong rpm and even when you put pedal to the floor, the truck wont downshift?

when the pedal has 50% of the distance to cover 100% of the throttle, your little nudge, gets you the downshift, that you otherwise wont receive.

the truck is more willing to downshift with less application by the driver. this translates directly into better driving characteristics that HDs dont typically get from the factory.
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by PWJouster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:54 pm

it was even recommended to keep the PC on the truck when the Hemifever arrives.
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by PWJouster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:55 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:48 pm


Your money is always better spent on a tune.
ill ship you mine for a review.
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by BoldAdventure » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:17 pm

PWJouster wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:55 pm
BoldAdventure wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:48 pm


Your money is always better spent on a tune.
ill ship you mine for a review.
I don't need it. I've owned one. I know exactly how they work.

Throttle input to Box_____Box output to PCM_________Actual Throttle Pedal
3 ohms_________________4 ohms__________________15%
5 ohms_________________7 ohms__________________25%
7 ohms_________________10 ohms_________________35%
9 ohms_________________13 ohms_________________45%
11 ohms________________15 ohms_________________55%
13 ohms________________16 ohms_________________65%
15 ohms________________17 ohms_________________75%
17 ohms________________18 ohms_________________85%
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by BoldAdventure » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:18 pm

PWJouster wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:53 pm
tune is always the best option. but at a price of the warranty.

you know when your cruising at just the wrong speed and at just the wrong rpm and even when you put pedal to the floor, the truck wont downshift?

when the pedal has 50% of the distance to cover 100% of the throttle, your little nudge, gets you the downshift, that you otherwise wont receive.

the truck is more willing to downshift with less application by the driver. this translates directly into better driving characteristics that HDs dont typically get from the factory.
Problems I don't have.
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by PWJouster » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:42 am

theres no chance that any typical ram 2500 owner wont appreciate what the unit can do. not as good as tuning, but the factory setup is shit
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Post by BoldAdventure » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:04 pm

$200 bucks for a stupid box or $200 bucks towards the $550 I'd spend on a tune. Easy choice for me to make.
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Post by olyelr » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:30 am

Well, I dont really care what type of device it takes to make the truck drive better (weather it be a stupid box or an actual tune), but if it makes it drive better than I am game.

I have been considering one for a while. I might go with this setup instead because its a bit cheaper. I would think it does the same damn thing as a PC.

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Post by BoldAdventure » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:26 pm

You can buy a resistor and change it yourself for less than $10 bucks if you really really wanna go DIY :p
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Re: Pedal commander

Post by olyelr » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:33 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:26 pm
You can buy a resistor and change it yourself for less than $10 bucks if you really really wanna go DIY :p
If I had the knowledge to be able to that I would. But I dont. Im the kind of guy to pay the big bucks for something already “plug and play” per-say.
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